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This page needs to discuss Cesar Manrique who is responsible for the maintenance of the Islands heritage in the face of increased tourism. Thanks to him the islands strict constitution restricts high rise developments, stipulates the colour of the houses (traditionally white and green) and bans bill boards. He also created most of the islands features including: Mirador del Rio, Jameos del Agua, Jardin de Cactus and his home (Funcacion Cessar Manrique) is now a museum to his own and his friends works, including Picasso, Miro, Chillida and Klee. There are also a number of his statues ("wind-toys") on the centre of roundabouts throughout the island, which forms an almost ironic statement due to his death in a car accident.

Cesar Manrique[edit]

translate : es:César Manrique.Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 01:31, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Flag?[edit]

Second paragraph tells that the flag is "split diagonally from top-left to bottom-right." But the flag shown in the history paragraph is split from bottom-left to top-right. Which one is correct?

Volcano?[edit]

Why was the table or grid at the right hand side of this page added? (added after 22 May 2005). It implies that the whole island is a volcano. Geologically speaking, this may be the case, but having things like "first ascent" and "climb" don't really make sense when this is an island which *contains* a volcano, it is not solely a volcano. If you ask anyone what they think Lanzarote is, they will tell you that it's an island - and a popular tourist island as well.(NJ)

Why do take exception with the fact that the whole island is geologically speaking a volcano? Just because parts of it are either covered by the result of human habitation or old lava does not mean it is no longer a volcano. It last erupted in 1834, and the 1730 to 1736 eruption remains as a percentage -25%, of the land covered by basaltic lavas in a single eruption, the largest the world has witness. If you doubt that think of the USA - the 48 states, and imagine 12 of those being covered by basalt. That is why it is the worlds largest by area covered. As regards it being a volcano - the whole island is. Parts may be considered extinct centres, but the Lanzarote volcano is an active dormant volcano.

Lanzarote is Junonia[edit]

Who the hell has stated that Junonia in Pliny the Elder is Palma and not Lanzarote (together with Fuerteventura)?

Proof 1:

Pliny mentions: "etiam spatia complexus Iunoniam abesse ad Gadibus DCCL p. tradit, ab ea tantundem ad occasum versus Pluvialiam Capriaramque".

Palma is the westernmost island of the Canaries and therefore in the west of Junonia there is no island of the Canaries (no Pluvialia and no Capriaria).

Proof 2: In Claudy Ptolemy the O-meridian is set through the westernmost island of the known world and this was through the Canaries. That means through Palma. But according to Ptolemy two islands of the Canaries are not in the 0-meridian but on the 1-meridian in the direction of Mauretanian coast and these are Lanzarote and Fuerteventura (Iunonia) and Gran Canaria (Canaria).

Addendum:

Three islands on the archipelago are special concerning divine relations through volcanic activity - one of them Lanzarote. Therefore it is fundamentally clear thar there a temple should be for reverence towards the deity Iuno. QED

Merge La Geria and Lanzarote[edit]

I've proposed these two articles be merged. (Most of the La Gería article is a copy-paste from what is already in the Lanzarote article.) Kathy A. 15:51, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Given the BIG differences between the two islands perhaps two seperate articles are appropriate. They should not be merged - they should be two articles with different content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lanzarotemaps (talk • contribs) 00:33, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lanzarote Street Maps[edit]

I added a link to our web site www.lanzarotemaps.co.uk - having lived here for over three years I know how hard it is for residents to find their way around (let alone tourists!). The link was blocked and I was advised to add a discussion here. Since we only sell advertising on the maps in Lanzarote and the main site use is a resource for visitors (and free to use!) I don't see why it's not allowed. Comments? Lanzarotemaps 15:58, 14 May 2007 (UTC)lanzarotemaps[reply]

Your site is just an advertising honeytrap, regurgitating Google Maps data with a garnish of targeted advertising. It adds nothing to the article and it's in direct contravention of our policy on spam. Your username suggests you are only here to add links to your website, which makes you a single-purpose account with a conflict of interest. Don't re-insert the link (or any like it, in this article or any other) or you will be blocked from editing; if you want to improve our articles I suggest you take a look at our tutorial pages and familiarise yourself with our policies, then concentrate on adding neutral content to articles, rather than external links. Cheers, --YFB ¿ 16:34, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So what does someone need to do to put their link in External Links??? If the resource is useful to visitors (and our page at www.lanzarotemaps.co.uk/popularsearches.asp show that people reaching the site ARE looking for particular businesses) why cannot it be allowed?? This seems like an arbitary decision. Explain. As for my username, since my focus was Lanzarote it made sense to use a name related to my Lanzaorte interests so that I could remember it. Does this mean that if I chose the name LANZAROTEBISEXUAL I would be barred from posting content relevant to Bisexuals in Lanzarote ??? Cheers - Nick.

And also the Climate of Lanzarote link has LOTS of adverts on it as well; why is that allowed but the maps one isn't? Seems very inconsistent to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.194.38.88 (talk) 21:59, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AND the arial photos link has a google ad panel before any other content .... PLUS it has a google panel down the side AND Google ads underneath the photos when you click them. There are lots of sites which offer arial views of Lanzarote without ANY advertising so what was wrong with my link. BTW, if you look at my history page I think you'll find that I post on a wide variety of topics so your "single purpose account" comment is absolute nonsense. I don't live on the island anymore and would like this issue of link removal discussed in more detail rather than an arbitary decision by ONE user that the link isn't relevant. Lanzarotemaps (talk) 23:49, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ironman Lanzarote[edit]

Is it me or does that just look like an advertisement for the event? It should be removed in my opinion. Wegason 21:21, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Even though our search logs show THOUSANDS of visitors looking for this event --- shouldn't they be able to look it up on Wiki and then find information from the offical site as a link? I disagree - leave the text but link to the external site explaining it. Anyway, what's your problem with it looking like an advert - it (together with Las Tres Islas) is MAJOR event on the island with many many people visiting Lanzarote to watch. If the "advert" is there then at least it makes it easy for people to find out more. Or should there be an Iron Man Lanzarote article linked --- is THAT an advert ???—Preceding unsigned comment added by Lanzarotemaps (talk • contribs) 00:30, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fauna and Flora[edit]

This artice states that there are many plant species, in which included is 180 species of Lichens. Lichens are not plants and therefore should not be counted in this capacity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.3.32.64 (talk) 18:12, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK - do we *need* to be this petty or is there a way someone could add in brackets that they aren't technically plants?? More content on Cesar Manrique would be more relevant than a discussion on plant/fauna/fungi/lichen status. Once the page has GOOD content it can be refined. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lanzarotemaps (talk • contribs) 00:36, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Climate[edit]

Section about climate has been deleted. Lanzarote is a popular tourist destination, would it be useful to revert back to including climate information? Gjm (talk) 19:08, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it would -- we have several Lanzarote based sites with weather pages and they are amongst the most visited on our network. This page is probably accessed a lot by people wanting to visit the island; ignoring the climate (which is actually quite interesting because of the variations possible on such a small island) is silly. Lanzarotemaps (talk) 00:47, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Useful reference?[edit]

The following reference is about agriculture on Lanzarote - stone mulch etc.

  • Pearce, Fred (9 September 2006). "The Miricle of the Stones". New Scientist: 50–51. {{cite journal}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help); Unknown parameter |quotes= ignored (help)

A lot more details on the history of Lanzarote would be useful - with sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.90.12 (talk) 12:48, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The stones in La Geria is not lapilli but was lava broken by hard manual work to create an area suitable for growing vines behind low shelters to protect the vines from the NE Trade wind, which blows almost non-stop.

Biosphere Reserve controversy[edit]

This bit keeps disappearing:

The island has a UNESCO Biosphere Reserve protected site status. But this status was endangered by a local corruption scandal. Since May 2009 police have arrested the former president of Lanzarote, the former mayor of Arrecife and more than 20 politicians and businessmen in connection with illegal building permits along the Lanzarote's coastline. UNESCO has threatened to revoke Lanzarote's Biosphere Reserve status "If the developments are not respecting local needs and are impacting on the environment".<ref>Building craze threatens to end Lanzarote's biosphere status The Independent. 7 July 2010</ref>

or rather, it's again and again removed by user:TURISMOLANZAROTE (a user name that pretty much screams conflict of interest). That user has pointed to [1]: the President of the Cabildo of Lanzarote says it ain't so. Maybe somebody with more patience can add this together with some version of the text above.ospalh (talk) 12:16, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Roman settlement?[edit]

Tecaxic-Calixtlahuaca head#Hypotheses mentions a Roman settlement on Lanzarote; is this confirmed? --Florian Blaschke (talk) 20:30, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Columbian_trans-oceanic_contact_theories gives a reference that it indicates tells of a long-time Roman settlement there. Kdammers (talk) 16:47, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

fr:Lanzarote[edit]

From Europe came the vines with whom will the wine Malvasia (Malmsey wine), favorite wine of the character of William Shakespeare, Falstaff. This wine has left its mark on the landscape: the vines are protected from drying winds by planting in hollows and behind the semicircular walls in stack of raw stones, such as scales, each with a stitched green patch covering the dark volcanic soil. Grape vines nestled in the crater made of lava powder, are sunk deep enough for the roots to reach the topsoil. The night dew restores moisture in the stocks. There are also some vine cabins, named 'taro', built of irregular blocks of volcanic stone. Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 01:25, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

please add coordinates in the main table[edit]

Archeology[edit]

I found a webpage with information about archaeology sites on the canary islands. However the text is a little too Spanish for me to understand. Maybe someone else can improve the article with some of this information. http://www.personales.ulpgc.es/patoche.dch/html/excavaciones.html

--VeniVidiVicipedia (talk) 08:29, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Demographics change[edit]

Hi all, I've just edited the breakdown of foreign inhabitants in the demographics section so that the numbers are connected to the source given (the 2006 census), and are no longer euro-centric. The previous version made erroneous claims about the percentage of Irish people which was not backed up by the source given. Also, the previous version only mentioned the large population of Moroccans and Columbians living on the island on the next sentence which is not supported by a reference, despite the fact that the 2006 census gave information about these groups. Granted, the first sentence stated that it was only looking at the European nationals, but this seems odd considering the back seat position this forced other, larger groups into. I felt it right to list the nationals in order of largest group size to smallest, and I made it clear that this was all information from the 2006 census to perhaps inspire someone to retrieve a newer version. I also removed the euro-centric introduction to the list.

Youtryandyoutry (talk) 16:41, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Population changes[edit]

@Rif Winfield: could you please provide a link to the source for the population figures you edited? Also, why did you feel it was necessary to change the citations for previous population numbers? -- Fyrael (talk) 19:49, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • The figures are released by Instituto Nacional de Estadistica, Madrid, as part of their annual release of demographic data. They are most easily taken online from https://citypopulation.de/en/spain/canarias/. In changing the citations, I replaced the earlier 2019 estimates (now outdated) by the more reliable Census figures for 2021, but also added the most recent estimates for 1.1.2023. Rif Winfield (talk) 09:16, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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