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Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open for at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.
Scope[edit]
CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Current discussions[edit]
Discussions awaiting closure[edit]
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 25 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 24 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 23 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 22 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 21 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 15 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 13 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 10 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 8 (2 open)
See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.
How to use CfD[edit]
Nomination procedure[edit]
Twinkle[edit]
You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, or if you prefer not to use Twinkle, follow the manual steps below.
MassCFD[edit]
You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massCFD to automatically make mass nominations.
Manual nominations[edit]
I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types[edit]
I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
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Notifying interested projects and editors[edit]
In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2024 May 3|CfD section name}} ~~~~
or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}}
to inform the category's creator and all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}}
for this.
Closing procedure[edit]
After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.
Redirecting categories[edit]
In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]
), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can create a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}}
to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.
In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Speedy renaming and merging
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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria[edit]
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes[edit]
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices[edit]
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names[edit]
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name[edit]
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request[edit]
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page[edit]
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions[edit]
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions[edit]
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here[edit]
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 01:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 398 open requests (. )
Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour waiting period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests[edit]
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:2024 pro-Palestinian encampment protests to Category:2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses – C2D: Article is now 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Companies based in Billings to Category:Companies based in Billings, Montana – C2D: Billings, Montana. 1857a (talk) 22:41, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Vic to Category:Vic, Spain – C2D. Joy (talk) 22:05, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Culture of Palestine to Category:Culture of Palestine (region) – C2C: per the convention for the subcategories of Category:Palestine (region) Aldij (talk) 20:05, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sculptures depicting Adam and Eve to Category:Sculptures of Adam and Eve – C2C; cf. other subcategories of Category:Sculptures of Hebrew Bible people. Ham II (talk) 19:12, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Jews from Georgia (country) to Category:Georgian Jews – C2D: main article is named Georgian Jews. Category:Georgian-Jewish diaspora is a subcategory of this category as well. Aldij (talk) 19:04, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Paintings depicting Christ carrying the cross to Category:Paintings of Christ carrying the cross – C2C; cf. other subcategories of Category:Paintings of the Passion of Jesus. Ham II (talk) 19:00, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Writers of the Habsburg Netherlands to Category:Writers from the Habsburg Netherlands – C2C: parent is People from the Habsburg Netherlands Mason (talk) 12:56, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Indian people by occupation by state or union territory to Category:Indian people by occupation and state or union territory – C2A: should be "and" not "by" Mason (talk) 01:52, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Medical school textbook writers to Category:Medical textbook writers – C2C: Parent is Medical textbooks Mason (talk) 01:11, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Turkish cuisine dolmas and sarmas to Category:Turkish dolmas and sarmas – C2A, cuisine is a superfluous word here. ForsythiaJo (talk) 23:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lawyers of insular areas of the United States to Category:Lawyers from insular areas of the United States – C2C: from FOO areas of the United States is the format Mason (talk) 20:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sailors of insular areas of the United States to Category:Sailors from insular areas of the United States – C2C: FOOian "from" insular areas "of" the United States Mason (talk) 20:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Inventors in insular areas of the United States to Category:Inventors from insular areas of the United States – C2C: Norm is to use from, not 'of' or 'in' (even with insular areas) Mason (talk) 20:25, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from Barrigada to Category:People from Barrigada, Guam – C2C: Category:Barrigada, Guam is parent Mason (talk) 20:16, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from Dededo to Category:People from Dededo, Guam – C2C: parent is Dededo, Guam, siblings in People by village in Guam, pretty much all end in FOO, Guam Mason (talk) 20:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Public housing in the United States by city to Category:Public housing in the United States by populated place – C2C: parent is Category:Residential buildings in the United States by populated place Mason (talk) 20:12, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Activist groups in Saint Louis to Category:Activist groups based in St. Louis – C2A. User:Namiba 15:55, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Kabaddi World Cup (Standard style) to Category:Kabaddi World Cup (standard style) – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:08, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Kabaddi World Cup (Circle style) to Category:Kabaddi World Cup (circle style) – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:08, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Greek Cypriot people to Category:Greek Cypriots – C2D: Main article Greek Cypriots. See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual#Other. NLeeuw (talk) 08:55, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Applied math journals to Category:Applied mathematics journals – C2A: Full name instead of colloquial abbreviation. Randykitty (talk) 08:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:George Floyd protests in the United States by state to Category:George Floyd protests in the United States by state or territory – C2C: parent is Protests in the United States by state or territory Mason (talk) 04:46, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defecting sportspeople of Cuba to Category:Defecting sportspeople from Cuba – C2C: from, not of Mason (talk) 00:51, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defecting sportspeople of the Islamic Republic of Iran to Category:Defecting sportspeople from the Islamic Republic of Iran – C2C: from not of Mason (talk) 00:50, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Peter Allen to Category:Films scored by Peter Allen (composer) – C2D: Peter Allen (composer). 1857a (talk) 23:14, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Arthur Kay to Category:Films scored by Arthur Kay (musician) – C2D: Arthur Kay (musician). 1857a (talk) 23:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Patrick Cassidy to Category:Films scored by Patrick Cassidy (composer) – C2D: Patrick Cassidy (composer). 1857a (talk) 23:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Stanley Wilson to Category:Films scored by Stanley Wilson (composer) – C2D: Stanley Wilson (composer). 1857a (talk) 23:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Randy Miller to Category:Films scored by Randy Miller (composer) – C2D: Randy Miller (composer). 1857a (talk) 23:06, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA women's ice hockey tournament to Category:NCAA women's ice hockey tournaments – C2A: Pluralize based on several different tiers of tournament being included. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:18, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Softball Championship to Category:NCAA softball tournaments – C2C: Based on contents and other similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:17, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA women's volleyball tournament to Category:NCAA women's volleyball tournaments – C2A: Make plural, based on several different tiers of tournaments being included. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:17, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Baseball Championship to Category:NCAA baseball tournaments – C2C: All subcats are baseball tournaments. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA men's basketball tournament to Category:NCAA men's basketball tournaments – C2A: Make plural, as subcats are several different tournaments. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Division II Cross Country Championship to Category:NCAA Division II cross country championships – C2D: NCAA Division II men's cross country championships and NCAA Division II women's cross country championships. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Cross Country Championships to Category:NCAA cross country championships – C2D: NCAA Division I men's cross country championships, NCAA Division I women's cross country championships, NCAA Division III men's cross country championships, and NCAA Division III women's cross country championships. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:06, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Field Hockey Championship to Category:NCAA field hockey tournaments – C2D: NCAA Division I field hockey tournament, NCAA Division II field hockey tournament, and NCAA Division III field hockey tournament. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Division III Field Hockey Championship to Category:NCAA Division III field hockey tournament – C2D: NCAA Division III field hockey tournament. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Division II Field Hockey Championship to Category:NCAA Division II field hockey tournament – C2D: NCAA Division II field hockey tournament. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Division I Field Hockey Championship to Category:NCAA Division I field hockey tournament – C2D: NCAA Division I field hockey tournament. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Women's Lacrosse Championship to Category:NCAA women's lacrosse tournaments – C2D: NCAA Division I women's lacrosse tournament, NCAA Division II women's lacrosse tournament, and NCAA Division III women's lacrosse tournament. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Women's Soccer Championship to Category:NCAA women's soccer tournaments – C2D: NCAA women's soccer tournament. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Men's Soccer Championship to Category:NCAA men's soccer tournaments – C2C: Based on contents of Category:NCAA championships and of this category. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Men's Golf Championship to Category:NCAA men's golf championships – C2D: Per NCAA Division I men's golf championship, NCAA Division II men's golf championship, and NCAA Division III men's golf championship. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:51, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Women's Golf Championship to Category:NCAA Division I women's golf championship – C2D: NCAA Division I women's golf championship. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Division II Men's Lacrosse Championship to Category:NCAA Division II men's lacrosse tournament – C2D: NCAA Division II men's lacrosse tournament. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Men's Lacrosse Championship to Category:NCAA men's lacrosse championship – C2D: NCAA men's lacrosse championship. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Women's Gymnastics championship to Category:NCAA women's gymnastics tournament – C2D: NCAA women's gymnastics tournament. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Men's Gymnastics championship to Category:NCAA men's gymnastics championships – C2D: NCAA men's gymnastics championships. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Families of the United States to Category:First families of the United States – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:52, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Families of Tanzania to Category:First families of Tanzania – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:52, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Families of Ukraine to Category:First families of Ukraine – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:51, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Families of Uruguay to Category:First families of Uruguay – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Families of India to Category:First families of India – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Families of Nepal to Category:First families of Nepal – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Families of Nigeria to Category:First families of Nigeria – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Families of Pakistan to Category:First families of Pakistan – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Families of Sri Lanka to Category:First families of Sri Lanka – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Families of Indonesia to Category:First families of Indonesia – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Families of Egypt to Category:First families of Egypt – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup qualification (CONCACAF) to Category:CONCACAF Beach Soccer Championship – C2D: CONCACAF Beach Soccer Championship. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup qualification (OFC) to Category:OFC Beach Soccer Nations Cup – C2D: OFC Beach Soccer Nations Cup. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:AFC Beach Soccer Championship to Category:AFC Beach Soccer Asian Cup – C2D: AFC Beach Soccer Asian Cup. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Guyana to Category:Prime ministers of Guyana – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Guinea to Category:Prime ministers of Guinea – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Azerbaijan to Category:Prime ministers of Azerbaijan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Peru to Category:Prime ministers of Peru – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Seychelles to Category:Prime ministers of Seychelles – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Serbia to Category:Prime ministers of Serbia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Senegal to Category:Prime ministers of Senegal – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Tanganyika to Category:Prime ministers of Tanganyika – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Tanzania to Category:Prime ministers of Tanzania – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Tuvalu to Category:Prime ministers of Tuvalu – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Turkey to Category:Prime ministers of Turkey – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Transnistria to Category:Prime ministers of Transnistria – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Tonga to Category:Prime ministers of Tonga – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedia categories named after Chancellors of Germany to Category:Wikipedia categories named after chancellors of Germany – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:20th-century Chancellors of Germany to Category:20th-century chancellors of Germany – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:19th-century Chancellors of Germany to Category:19th-century chancellors of Germany – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:21st-century Chancellors of Germany to Category:21st-century chancellors of Germany – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Togo to Category:Prime ministers of Togo – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Thailand to Category:Prime ministers of Thailand – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Bosnia and Herzegovina to Category:Prime ministers of Bosnia and Herzegovina – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Tajikistan to Category:Prime ministers of Tajikistan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Syria to Category:Prime ministers of Syria – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Suriname to Category:Prime ministers of Suriname – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Serbia and Montenegro to Category:Prime ministers of Serbia and Montenegro – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Saint Lucia to Category:Prime ministers of Saint Lucia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Sint Maarten to Category:Prime ministers of Sint Maarten – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:36, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Saint Kitts and Nevis to Category:Prime ministers of Saint Kitts and Nevis – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:36, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Burkina Faso to Category:Prime ministers of Burkina Faso – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:36, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Sudan to Category:Prime ministers of Sudan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Somalia to Category:Prime ministers of Somalia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Cape Verde to Category:Prime ministers of Cape Verde – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of East Timor to Category:Prime ministers of East Timor – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Slovenia to Category:Prime ministers of Slovenia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Equatorial Guinea to Category:Prime ministers of Equatorial Guinea – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Dominion of Newfoundland to Category:Prime ministers of Dominion of Newfoundland – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Papua New Guinea to Category:Prime ministers of Papua New Guinea – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of East Germany to Category:Prime ministers of East Germany – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Kurdistan Region to Category:Prime ministers of Kurdistan Region – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Palestinian National Authority to Category:Prime ministers of Palestinian National Authority – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Netherlands Antilles to Category:Prime ministers of Netherlands Antilles – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic to Category:Prime ministers of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:33, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines to Category:Prime ministers of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:33, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of São Tomé and Príncipe to Category:Prime ministers of São Tomé and Príncipe – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:33, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Saudi Arabia to Category:Prime ministers of Saudi Arabia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:33, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Sri Lanka to Category:Prime ministers of Sri Lanka – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:33, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Slovakia to Category:Prime ministers of Slovakia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:33, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Singapore to Category:Prime ministers of Singapore – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:33, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Benin to Category:Prime ministers of Benin – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Bahrain to Category:Prime ministers of Bahrain – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Bangladesh to Category:Prime ministers of Bangladesh – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Barbados to Category:Prime ministers of Barbados – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Belarus to Category:Prime ministers of Belarus – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Belize to Category:Prime ministers of Belize – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of North Yemen to Category:Prime ministers of North Yemen – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Northern Ireland to Category:Prime ministers of Northern Ireland – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of North Macedonia to Category:Prime ministers of North Macedonia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Chechnya to Category:Prime ministers of Chechnya – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Curaçao to Category:Prime ministers of Curaçao – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Great Britain to Category:Prime ministers of Great Britain – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Guinea-Bissau to Category:Prime ministers of Guinea-Bissau – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Maldives to Category:Prime ministers of the Maldives – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Czechoslovakia to Category:Prime ministers of Czechoslovakia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of South Korea to Category:Prime ministers of South Korea – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of South Africa to Category:Prime ministers of South Africa – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of South Vietnam to Category:Prime ministers of South Vietnam – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of South Yemen to Category:Prime ministers of South Yemen – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Myanmar to Category:Prime ministers of Myanmar – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Niger to Category:Prime ministers of Niger – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Nigeria to Category:Prime ministers of Nigeria – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Trinidad and Tobago to Category:Prime ministers of Trinidad and Tobago – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Norway to Category:Prime ministers of Norway – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Palestine to Category:Prime ministers of Palestine – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Prussia to Category:Prime ministers of Prussia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Sierra Leone to Category:Prime ministers of Sierra Leone – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Turkmenistan to Category:Prime ministers of Turkmenistan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Tunisia to Category:Prime ministers of Tunisia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Samoa to Category:Prime ministers of Samoa – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:25, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Bhutan to Category:Prime ministers of Bhutan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:25, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Jamaica to Category:Prime ministers of Jamaica – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:25, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Kenya to Category:Prime ministers of Kenya – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Kuwait to Category:Prime ministers of Kuwait – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Kazakhstan to Category:Prime ministers of Kazakhstan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Qatar to Category:Prime ministers of Qatar – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Philippines to Category:Prime ministers of the Philippines – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Bahamas to Category:Prime ministers of the Bahamas – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Netherlands to Category:Prime ministers of the Netherlands – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Cook Islands to Category:Prime ministers of the Cook Islands – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Cape Colony to Category:Prime ministers of the Cape Colony – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Comoros to Category:Prime ministers of the Comoros – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Democratic Republic of the Congo to Category:Prime ministers of the Democratic Republic of the Congo – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Republic of the Congo to Category:Prime ministers of the Republic of the Congo – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Central African Republic to Category:Prime ministers of the Central African Republic – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Czech Republic by party to Category:Prime ministers of the Czech Republic by party – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia to Category:Prime ministers of the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Czech Socialist Republic to Category:Prime ministers of the Czech Socialist Republic – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom to Category:Prime ministers of the United Kingdom – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the United Arab Emirates to Category:Prime ministers of the United Arab Emirates – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Czech Republic to Category:Prime ministers of the Czech Republic – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Faroe Islands to Category:Prime ministers of the Faroe Islands – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Solomon Islands to Category:Prime ministers of the Solomon Islands – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Pakistan to Category:Prime ministers of Pakistan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:19, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Oman to Category:Prime ministers of Oman – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:19, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Georgia to Category:Prime ministers of Georgia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:19, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Gabon to Category:Prime ministers of Gabon – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:18, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Vietnam to Category:Prime ministers of Vietnam – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:18, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of North Korea to Category:Prime ministers of North Korea – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:18, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of the Gambia to Category:Prime ministers of the Gambia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:17, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Mozambique to Category:Prime ministers of Mozambique – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:17, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Montenegro to Category:Prime ministers of Montenegro – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:17, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Yugoslavia to Category:Prime ministers of Yugoslavia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:17, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Zambia to Category:Prime ministers of Zambia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:17, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Eswatini to Category:Prime ministers of Eswatini – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:16, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Kyrgyzstan to Category:Prime ministers of Kyrgyzstan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:16, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Belgium to Category:Prime ministers of Belgium – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Vanuatu to Category:Prime ministers of Vanuatu – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Namibia to Category:Prime ministers of Namibia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Fiji to Category:Prime ministers of Fiji – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:14, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Uruguay to Category:Prime ministers of Uruguay – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Ukraine to Category:Prime ministers of Ukraine – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Uganda to Category:Prime ministers of Uganda – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Mongolia to Category:Prime ministers of Mongolia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Morocco to Category:Prime ministers of Lesotho – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Lesotho to Category:Prime ministers of Lesotho – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Iraq to Category:Prime ministers of Iraq – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of British India to Category:Prime ministers of British India – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Iran to Category:Prime ministers of Iran – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Indonesia to Category:Prime ministers of Indonesia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Yemen to Category:Prime ministers of Yemen – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Uzbekistan to Category:Prime ministers of Uzbekistan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Moldova to Category:Prime ministers of Moldova – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of India to Category:Prime ministers of India – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prime Ministers of Iceland to Category:Prime ministers of Iceland – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Svenska cupen (women) to Category:Svenska Cupen (women) – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Italian Women's Cup to Category:Coppa Italia (women) – C2D: Coppa Italia (women). Hey man im josh (talk) 17:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Women's Knockout Cup/Kate Sheppard Cup to Category:Kate Sheppard Cup – C2D: Kate Sheppard Cup. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Coppa Italia Serie C Finals to Category:Coppa Italia Serie C finals – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Kings Cup (Saudi Arabia) to Category:King's Cup (Saudi Arabia) – C2D: King's Cup (Saudi Arabia). Hey man im josh (talk) 16:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Pakistan National Football Challenge Cup to Category:PFF National Challenge Cup – C2D: PFF National Challenge Cup. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:36, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Bahraini King's Cup to Category:King's Cup (Bahrain) – C2D: King's Cup (Bahrain). Hey man im josh (talk) 16:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Bahrain FA Cup to Category:Bahraini FA Cup – C2D: Bahraini FA Cup. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:25, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ghanaian FA Cup to Category:Ghana FA Cup – C2D with Ghana FA Cup Intrisit (talk) 16:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Jxdn albums to Category:Jaden Hossler albums – C2D: Jaden Hossler StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 15:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Azerbaijani people templates to Category:Azerbaijani people and person templates – C2C following Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_29#People_and_person_templates_by_country – Fayenatic London 13:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Albania people templates to Category:Albanian people and person templates
- Category:United Kingdom people and person external link templates to Category:British people and person external link templates
- Category:United Kingdom people and person sidebar templates to Category:British people and person sidebar templates
- Category:Canada people and person templates to Category:Canadian people and person templates
- Category:Canada people and person external link templates to Category:Canadian people and person external link templates
- Category:Canada people and person navigational boxes to Category:Canadian people and person navigational boxes
- Category:Canada comics creator navigational boxes to Category:Canadian comics creator navigational boxes
- Category:Brazil people and person templates to Category:Braziian people and person templates
- Category:China people and person templates to Category:Chinese people and person templates
- Category:China people and person navigational boxes to Category:Chinese people and person navigational boxes
- Category:Syrian ministers of health to Category:Ministers of health of Syria – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Peruvian Ministers of Health to Category:Ministers of health of Peru – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:French Ministers of Health to Category:Ministers of health of France – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ecuadorian Ministers of Health to Category:Ministers of health of Eduador – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Chilean Ministers of Health to Category:Ministers of health of Chile – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:45, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Romanian Ministers of Health to Category:Ministers of health of Romania – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:45, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Moldovan Ministers of Health to Category:Ministers of health of Moldova – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:45, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colombian Ministers of Health to Category:Ministers of health of Columbia – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:45, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Health and Social Protection of Colombia to Category:Ministers of health and social protection of Colombia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Writers of the Irish diaspora to Category:Writers of Irish descent – C2C: parent is People of Irish descent Mason (talk) 13:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Taiwanese Ministers of Health and Welfare to Category:Ministers of health and welfare of Taiwan – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Public Health of Thailand to Category:Ministers of public health of Thailand – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Black speculative fiction authors to Category:Speculative fiction writers of African descent – C2C: parent is Writers of African descent Mason (talk) 13:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Swedish Ministers for Health to Category:Ministers for health of Sweden – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: I personally think all these should be renamed to match the established parent category tree at Category:Health ministers by country (and others such as defence) which use a Subject ministers of X format AusLondonder (talk) 13:45, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london explained that there was a difference (below, in the opposed section) when they opposed a number of nominations @AusLondonder. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah I'm not sure I agree with that though and was considering a CFD nomination. AusLondonder (talk) 13:57, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sigh. Does that mean you're contesting all of these nominations that are refactoring? It sounds like you're not confident, so perhaps you should hold off until you are. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am not opposed to what you're proposing, but I think the original proposal to standardise the category trees was the most appropriate. Interested to hear from Fayenatic london a bit more about their rationale for opposing that. AusLondonder (talk) 14:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sigh. Does that mean you're contesting all of these nominations that are refactoring? It sounds like you're not confident, so perhaps you should hold off until you are. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah I'm not sure I agree with that though and was considering a CFD nomination. AusLondonder (talk) 13:57, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london explained that there was a difference (below, in the opposed section) when they opposed a number of nominations @AusLondonder. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: I personally think all these should be renamed to match the established parent category tree at Category:Health ministers by country (and others such as defence) which use a Subject ministers of X format AusLondonder (talk) 13:45, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers for Health (Ireland) to Category:Ministers for health of Ireland – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers for Public Health of Uruguay to Category:Ministers for public health of Uruguay – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Mexican Secretaries of Health to Category:Secretaries of health of Mexico – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Soviet Ministers of Justice to Category:Ministers of justice of the Soviet Union – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Justice ministers by country . Hey man im josh (talk) 13:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Soviet Ministers of Defence to Category:Ministers of defence of the Soviet Union – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Defense ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Soviet Ministers of Internal Affairs to Category:Ministers of internal affairs of the Soviet Union – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Internal Affairs by country to Category:Internal affairs ministers by country – C2C: See other ministries broken down by ministers in Category:Government ministers by country. This is the only one that starts with "Ministers". Hey man im josh (talk) 13:33, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers for Foreign Affairs of Finland to Category:Ministers for foreign affairs of Finland – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:French Foreign Ministers to Category:Foreign ministers of France – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Category:Foreign ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Foreign Affairs of Azerbaijan to Category:Ministers of foreign affairs of Azerbaijan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Soviet Ministers of Foreign Affairs to Category:Ministers of foreign affairs of the Soviet Union – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Category:Foreign ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Soviet Ministers of Health to Category:Ministers of health of the Soviet Union – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Health and Care Services of Norway to Category:Ministers of health and care services of Norway – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:25, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Health (Kazakhstan) to Category:Ministers of health of Kazakhstan – C2A: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Australian Ministers for Health to Category:Ministers for health of Australia – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Argentine ministers of health to Category:Ministers of health of Argentina – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Italian Ministers of Health to Category:Ministers of health of Italy – C2C: Per categories in parent category, Category:Health ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Burundian Defense Minister to Category:Defense ministers of Burundi – C2C: Per categories in parent, Category:Defense ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Austrian Ministers of Defence to Category:Ministers of defence of Austria – C2C: Per categories in Category:Defense ministers by country. Also switching from "defence" to "defense" based on Minister of Defense (Austria). Hey man im josh (talk) 13:19, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Persian translators to Category:Translators from Persian – C2C: siblings are Category:Translators from Albanian etc. is supposed to be the language not the ethnicity Mason (talk) 23:42, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- At least some of the content of the category relates to translators from Persian. Ymblanter (talk) 05:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter I'm a tad confused by your comment. The only people in the Persian translators category are incorrectly classified. They're all Translators from Persian. Mason (talk) 00:09, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant "to Persian". Ymblanter (talk) 05:16, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Like I guess Insha-Allah Rahmati. Ymblanter (talk) 05:17, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant "to Persian". Ymblanter (talk) 05:16, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter I'm a tad confused by your comment. The only people in the Persian translators category are incorrectly classified. They're all Translators from Persian. Mason (talk) 00:09, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- At least some of the content of the category relates to translators from Persian. Ymblanter (talk) 05:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Opposed requests[edit]
- Category:North African-Jewish diaspora to Category:Maghrebi-Jews diaspora – C2D: North African Jews is a redirect to Maghrebi Jews. Aldij (talk) 18:47, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- This reduces the scope of the category, so I guess this should be moved to full CfD. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:48, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think the scope would change, as the article Maghrebi Jews says the term sometimes includes Egyptian Jews. But the new name should end with "Jewish" not "Jews", i.e. Category:Maghrebi-Jewish diaspora. – Fayenatic London 12:36, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- It is very unusual to include Egypt in Maghreb, and the article does not discuss Egyptian Jews in detail. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:26, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- This reduces the scope of the category, so I guess this should be moved to full CfD. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:48, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:United States politicians killed during the Civil War to Category:Politicians killed in the American Civil War - this new name is shorter and less ambiguous, as the category lists both Union and Confederate politicians who died in the ACW. AHI-3000 (talk) 03:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Württemberg to Category:Finance ministers of Württemberg – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of the Solomon Islands to Category:Finance ministers of the Solomon Islands – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Norway to Category:Finance ministers of Norway – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:27, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Niue to Category:Finance ministers of Niue – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:27, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Japan to Category:Finance ministers of Japan – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:25, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Finland to Category:Finance ministers of Finland – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Ecuador to Category:Finance ministers of Ecuador – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:23, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Cyprus to Category:Finance ministers of Cyprus – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Chile to Category:Finance ministers of Chile – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Burkina Faso to Category:Finance ministers of Burkina Faso – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:19, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers for finance of Abkhazia to Category:Finance ministers of Abkhazia – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Afghanistan to Category:Finance ministers of Afghanistan – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:17, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Labour of Israel to Category:Labour ministers of Israel – C2C: Per Category:Labor ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:09, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Italian Ministers of Labour to Category:Labour ministers of Italy – C2C: Per Category:Labor ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Taiwanese Ministers of Labor to Category:Labor ministers of Taiwan – C2C: Per Category:Labor ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:05, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Labour of Finland to Category:Labour ministers of Finland – C2C: Per Category:Labor ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:04, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Romanian Ministers of Defence to Category:Defence ministers of Romania – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:43, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers for Defence of Luxembourg to Category:Defence ministers of Luxembourg – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:58, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Lithuania to Category:Defence ministers of Lithuania – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:58, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defense of Israel to Category:Defense ministers of Israel – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:54, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Bissau-Guinean Ministers of Defense to Category:Defence ministers of Guinea-Bissau – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:53, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Papua New Guinea to Category:Defence ministers of Papua New Guinea – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Tajikistan to Category:Defence ministers of Tajikistan – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:37, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Turkmenistan to Category:Defence ministers of Turkmenistan – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:36, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Venezuelan Ministers of Defense to Category:Defense ministers of Venezuela – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:35, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Vietnam to Category:Defence ministers of Vietnam – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Mongolia to Category:Defence ministers of Mongolia – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 15:59, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Kyrgyzstan to Category:Defence ministers of Kyrgyzstan – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 15:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Kazakhstan to Category:Defence ministers of Kazakhstan – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 15:54, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Belgian Ministers of Defence to Category:Defence ministers of Belgium – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 15:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defense of Azerbaijan to Category:Defence ministers of Azerbaijan – C2C: Per Category:Ministry of Defence (Azerbaijan) and Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 15:39, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose all word order changes for the political office, or changes from "Ministers for [dept]" to "Ministers of [dept]", unless demonstrated to be local usage. Especially opposing "Ministers of Finance" to "Finance ministers" – I recently renamed these according to local usage; where there is no article for the position in the country, I followed the majority usage in the biography articles. They do not have to follow the wording "Finance ministers" from the parent Category:Finance ministers by country. Note: I am not opposing decapitalisation, nor moving to "of [Country]", which can go ahead speedily. – Fayenatic London 20:37, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london: Wasn't aware, sorry for the extra work these noms have made. Thought I was helping out but you're two steps ahead of me! Hey man im josh (talk) 20:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Just noting that I removed all of the nominations I created that were opposed by Fayenatic London. I did make more that were within their scope of what was okay. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how it's a local usage issue? Why should the category tree of Category:Finance ministers by country not be consistent? AusLondonder (talk) 05:04, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- In some countries the list article is "Finance Minister (Country)", in others "Minister of Finance (Country)" or "Minister for Finance (Country)", or "Minister for Economy" etc. The category name should match the post name as described in the country, but in lower case according to MOS:JOBTITLE. – Fayenatic London 12:27, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london: Wasn't aware, sorry for the extra work these noms have made. Thought I was helping out but you're two steps ahead of me! Hey man im josh (talk) 20:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose all word order changes for the political office, or changes from "Ministers for [dept]" to "Ministers of [dept]", unless demonstrated to be local usage. Especially opposing "Ministers of Finance" to "Finance ministers" – I recently renamed these according to local usage; where there is no article for the position in the country, I followed the majority usage in the biography articles. They do not have to follow the wording "Finance ministers" from the parent Category:Finance ministers by country. Note: I am not opposing decapitalisation, nor moving to "of [Country]", which can go ahead speedily. – Fayenatic London 20:37, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Communist Party secretaries of Rehe Province to Category:CCP committee secretaries of Rehe Province – C2A: Consistent with similar sub-categories in this category Amigao (talk) 02:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Secretaries of the Communist Party Shanghai Committee to Category:CCP committee secretaries of Shanghai – C2A: Consistent with similar sub-categories in this category Amigao (talk) 02:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Communist Party Committee Secretaries of Taiyuan to Category:CCP committee secretaries of Taiyuan – C2A: Consistent with similar sub-categories in this category Amigao (talk) 02:03, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Communist Party secretaries of Xi'an to Category:CCP committee secretaries of Xi'an – C2A: consistent naming with sub-categories in this category Amigao (talk) 02:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Tatar music to Category:Music of Tatarstan – C2D: Music of Tatarstan. NLeeuw (talk) 05:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- This one contains a lot of entries unrelated to Tatarstan. Ymblanter (talk) 20:34, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps we should split it in two?
- Category:Music of Tatarstan > Music by country tree
- Category:Tatar music > Music by ethnicity tree
- We don't need to move to full in order to do that; I could withdraw this nom and create the first one myself out of the second. NLeeuw (talk) 22:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps we should split it in two?
- This one contains a lot of entries unrelated to Tatarstan. Ymblanter (talk) 20:34, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American female winemakers to Category:American women winemakers – Reason C2C: per siblings in Category:American women by occupation. TSventon (talk) 20:48, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy. Female versus women is not clear cut, especially not under C2C. Mason (talk) 00:30, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose There is no consensus on "women" versus "female" as an adjective, and existing cats should generally not be renamed. NLeeuw (talk) 06:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- NLeeuw, for future reference, do you have a source for what you said? TSventon (talk) 22:23, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- @TSventon I do. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 April 27#Women/Men or Female/Male as an adjective. See User:Nederlandse Leeuw/Emptying categories out of process#Admin manually moving categories without discussion for an April 2023 incident confirming the fact that there is no consensus on female versus women. In the archives you'll find countless other precedents which confirmed the fact that we do not agree on which adjective is better, and to change it one way or another. NLeeuw (talk) 05:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- NLeeuw the first discussion you linked was closed "no consensus; in general, users seem open to some case-by-case fixes" and your userpage is about out of process moves so I don't think they support "existing cats should generally not be renamed". TSventon (talk) 10:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- I provided those links in order to show there has been no consensus since 2013, and that non-consensus was confirmed in 2023. The statement "existing cats should generally not be renamed" is compatible with the statement "no consensus; in general, users seem open to some case-by-case fixes". I understand the outcome as saying that it is up to the nominator to justify case-by-case fixes; nominating a category for speedy renaming is invoking a general criterion for speedy renaming, which is apparently not allowed. NLeeuw (talk) 14:46, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- But that is just my interpretation. I could be wrong. I haven't done a full review of every single CfR since 2013 to see what is and isn't allowed to be fixed on a case-by-case basis. Nevertheless, I would suggest not to try and change catnames unless they really pose a problem, such as a category about girls who have not yet reached adulthood, and therefore probably should not be named "women". (There was a discussion about Category:child monarchs some time ago, I can't quite remember where. The argument was that if we were to create a subcategory for girls who became monarchs before the age of 15 or 16, they should be called Category:Female child monarchs (or Category:Girl monarchs), and not Category:Women child monarchs, as "women" and "child" are incompatible words in that situation, even though a parent category would be Category:Women monarchs. This would be a "case-by-case fix" in my opinion.) NLeeuw (talk) 15:03, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- I provided those links in order to show there has been no consensus since 2013, and that non-consensus was confirmed in 2023. The statement "existing cats should generally not be renamed" is compatible with the statement "no consensus; in general, users seem open to some case-by-case fixes". I understand the outcome as saying that it is up to the nominator to justify case-by-case fixes; nominating a category for speedy renaming is invoking a general criterion for speedy renaming, which is apparently not allowed. NLeeuw (talk) 14:46, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- NLeeuw the first discussion you linked was closed "no consensus; in general, users seem open to some case-by-case fixes" and your userpage is about out of process moves so I don't think they support "existing cats should generally not be renamed". TSventon (talk) 10:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- @TSventon I do. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 April 27#Women/Men or Female/Male as an adjective. See User:Nederlandse Leeuw/Emptying categories out of process#Admin manually moving categories without discussion for an April 2023 incident confirming the fact that there is no consensus on female versus women. In the archives you'll find countless other precedents which confirmed the fact that we do not agree on which adjective is better, and to change it one way or another. NLeeuw (talk) 05:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy. Female versus women is not clear cut, especially not under C2C. Mason (talk) 00:30, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion[edit]
- None currently
Moved to full discussion[edit]
- Category:Sikh military to Category:Military of the Sikh Empire – C2C: Parents Category:Sikh Empire and Category:Military by former country. Siblings in Category:Military by former country. NLeeuw (talk) 17:29, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Nederlandse Leeuw: this requires more discussion because there is lots of content in the category that pre-dates the Sikh Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle You're probably right. Moved to full: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 19#Category:Sikh military. NLeeuw (talk) 14:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Nederlandse Leeuw: this requires more discussion because there is lots of content in the category that pre-dates the Sikh Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Neo-Latin writers to Category:Writers in Neo-Latin – C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 01:01, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This is not very natural language. It is inconsistent with the same level categories "Classical Latin-language writers", "Latin-language writers of late antiquity", "Medieval Latin-language writers", "Old Latin-language writers", and "Renaissance Latin-language writers".
- This is because "Neo-Latin" etc are actually styles, that are associated with a period. Jim Killock (talk) 05:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Latin-language writers of late antiquity to Category:Writers of late antiquity in Latin – C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 00:57, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Very clumsy sounding Jim Killock (talk) 05:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Classical Latin-language writers to Category:Writers in Classical Latin – C2C: Parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 00:54, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Very clumsy sounding Jim Killock (talk) 05:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Old Latin-language writers to Category:Writers in Old Latin – C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 00:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Sounds clumsy. Same Jim Killock (talk) 05:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Renaissance Latin-language writers to Category:Renaissance writers in Latin – C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 00:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Sounds weird per others Jim Killock (talk) 05:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Medieval Latin-language writers to Category:Medieval writers in Latin – C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 00:39, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Same Jim Killock (talk) 05:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Same. These sound weird. Jim Killock (talk) 05:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- @JimKillock The parent Category:Writers in Latin by period and grandparent Category:Writers in Latin and other related categories were all renamed by consensus last year: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 7#Category:Latin-language writers. These are just logical follow-ups to that result. The reason we went for this formula is explained at length in that nom. NLeeuw (talk) 15:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- But these are not "by period"; they are "by style". This especially true for Neo-Latin. The periods and styles often coincide, but not precisely. Better would be to follow the styles defined in the articles, so:
- I've explained elsewhere that the periods and styles are not precise. For instance, a writer in the Renaissance may have employed Medieval Latin, or Renaissance Latin; and some may define their Renaissance Latin as Neo-Latin. These are stylistic boundaries which roughly match period, but it is the style, not the period, that determines their classifications. Jim Killock (talk) 19:50, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- @JimKillock I know. Category:14th-century Neo-Latin writers were a thing; it's good that you created that category. But I don't see how it would create a problem if we renamed it Category:14th-century writers in Neo-Latin. If anything, it is even clearer that "14th-century" refers to "writers" and not to "Neo-Latin", so that we shouldn't assume that the kind of Latin they wrote was Medieval Latin. This is all the more reason in favour of renaming, so that our readers understand the difference between style and period. NLeeuw (talk) 14:03, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- The issue is that the whole category structure is used to amalgamate and conflate these two ideas. I don't have an easy solution to it, that doesn't involve some work. It's reasonable to say that a C12th Medieval Latin writer used Medieval Latin, or a C20th writer uses Neo-Latin. Boundary centuries seem debateable. However, the structure makes an absolute assumption, that century and style are the same, except where I started to break it up. This has come up in two recent discussions, the other being when someone wanted to remove my boundary category. But it's clear that the intention was that Category:Classical Latin-language writers should contain Classical Latin writers, ie be a style category, not a time category. Likewise, Late Latin and Neo-Latin. There can be doubt about medieval Latin because of it seems to refer to a period rather than a style; however as it is a set of style categories we should assume it is about style, likewise for Renaissance Latin. The fact that the categories group information from centuries is a laziness, nothing more. In short it is a mess but it is only made worse by changing the names to appear to refer to time periods, some of which don't really exist (Classical Latin isn't a time, nor is Latin Latin, nor is Neo-Latin).
- Category:Writers in Classical Latin; Category:Writers in Neo-Latin - these all refer to a style; they are acceptable from that perspective, but they sounds strange / clumsy to my ear; the natural way to say is Category:Classical Latin writers, Category:Neo-Latin writers, or as close to that as WP allows.
- Taking one example to show why the suggested formulation can sound wrong. Category:Writers in Old Latin; Old Latin is recognised as a phase of Latin, rather than a "style" of Latin, so a bit different, but it functions the same. It is like Old English, not quite the same as Modern English. So, "writers in Old Latin" doesn't work because You [verb] in [language]; you don't [person] in [language]. It is either People writing in Old Latin or Old Latin writers. So Category:Old Latin writers sounds better, another option would be Category:Writers using Old Latin.
- Category:Renaissance writers in Latin; Category:Medieval writers in Latin - refer to a time period and remove the style names. These would need to be Category:Writers in Renaissance Latin; Category:Writers in Medieval Latin. This is not great English, most natural would be Category:Medieval Latin writers, Category: Renaissance Latin writers
- So there seems to be some inconsistency of approach in the current suggestion, as well as a somewhat clumsy use of "in" that isn't needed.
- It has taken me some time to pinpoint the issue with "in"; but I think it is because language can be either a noun or an adjective. When it is a style, describing how someone writes, "Classical Latin" etc, is an adjective. If "Classical Latin" is an adjective, then "in" shouldn't be used. If "Classical Latin" is a noun, as with "Classical Latin" the topic then "in" is possible, eg "Grammar in Classical Latin", or "They write in Classical Latin". As an adjective, it works as "Classical Latin writers". --Jim Killock (talk) 00:59, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose this will have to be moved to full then... NLeeuw (talk) 13:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 15#Category:Neo-Latin writers. NLeeuw (talk) 17:40, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose this will have to be moved to full then... NLeeuw (talk) 13:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @JimKillock I know. Category:14th-century Neo-Latin writers were a thing; it's good that you created that category. But I don't see how it would create a problem if we renamed it Category:14th-century writers in Neo-Latin. If anything, it is even clearer that "14th-century" refers to "writers" and not to "Neo-Latin", so that we shouldn't assume that the kind of Latin they wrote was Medieval Latin. This is all the more reason in favour of renaming, so that our readers understand the difference between style and period. NLeeuw (talk) 14:03, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @JimKillock The parent Category:Writers in Latin by period and grandparent Category:Writers in Latin and other related categories were all renamed by consensus last year: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 7#Category:Latin-language writers. These are just logical follow-ups to that result. The reason we went for this formula is explained at length in that nom. NLeeuw (talk) 15:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Tamil language encyclopedias to Category:Tamil-language encyclopedias – C2A: MOS:HYPHEN –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:39, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Tamil per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
Encyclopedias in Fooian
. I already proposed Category:Encyclopedias in Dutch. I recommend we follow the recent renaming of Category:Texts by language, Category:Songs by language, and others to this sameThings in Fooian
naming convention for clarity and consistency. NLeeuw (talk) 00:29, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Tamil per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
- Category:Bengali encyclopedias to Category:Bengali-language encyclopedias – C2C: Category:Bengali-language literature, etc. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:38, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Bengali per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
Encyclopedias in Fooian
. I already proposed Category:Encyclopedias in Dutch. I recommend we follow the recent renaming of Category:Texts by language, Category:Songs by language, and others to this sameThings in Fooian
naming convention for clarity and consistency. NLeeuw (talk) 00:30, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Bengali per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
- Category:Albanian encyclopedias to Category:Albanian-language encyclopedias – C2C: Category:Belarusian-language literature, etc. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:37, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Albanian per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
Encyclopedias in Fooian
. I already proposed Category:Encyclopedias in Dutch. I recommend we follow the recent renaming of Category:Texts by language, Category:Songs by language, and others to this sameThings in Fooian
naming convention for clarity and consistency. NLeeuw (talk) 00:31, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Albanian per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
- Category:Belarusian encyclopedias to Category:Belarusian-language encyclopedias – C2C: Category:Belarusian-language literature, etc. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:37, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Belarusian per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
Encyclopedias in Fooian
. I already proposed Category:Encyclopedias in Dutch. I recommend we follow the recent renaming of Category:Texts by language, Category:Songs by language, and others to this sameThings in Fooian
naming convention for clarity and consistency. NLeeuw (talk) 00:32, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Belarusian per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
- @LaundryPizza03 and Nederlandse Leeuw: either you have to agree on something, or this should be moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- There are several similar CfD's that are ongoing, such as Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_1#Category:Dutch_encyclopedias, so I'd go to full. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:32, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Going full is fine with me. I hope we end up with a naming convention that is consistently applied. LP's speedy proposals are an improvement, and a fine intermediate step, but if we could skip that step and rename them all to
Encyclopedias in Fooian
in one go, well, all the better. :) NLeeuw (talk) 07:10, 5 April 2024 (UTC)- @LaundryPizza03 Is it okay if I add these 4 proposals of yours to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_1#Category:Dutch_encyclopedias in order to centralise the discussion? I'll have
Encyclopedias in Fooian
(my proposal) as Option 1 andFooian-language encyclopedias
(your proposal) as Option 2. NLeeuw (talk) 07:15, 5 April 2024 (UTC)- PS: I recommend we keep the discussion about splitting Bulgarian encyclopedias separate. (I agree with your proposal to split them; we could always change the 2nd target's name based on the outcome of the Dutch &c. encyclopedias discussion). NLeeuw (talk) 07:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:27, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 1#Category:Dutch encyclopedias. I'll update the LP's 4 nominees' tags as well, with LP's proposed name and linking to my expanded nom. NLeeuw (talk) 16:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- @LaundryPizza03 Is it okay if I add these 4 proposals of yours to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_1#Category:Dutch_encyclopedias in order to centralise the discussion? I'll have
- Going full is fine with me. I hope we end up with a naming convention that is consistently applied. LP's speedy proposals are an improvement, and a fine intermediate step, but if we could skip that step and rename them all to
- There are several similar CfD's that are ongoing, such as Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_1#Category:Dutch_encyclopedias, so I'd go to full. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:32, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- @LaundryPizza03 and Nederlandse Leeuw: either you have to agree on something, or this should be moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Scholars of Mycenaean Greek to Category:Linguists of Mycenaean Greek – C2C: Uncles/aunts in Category:Linguists by language of study are all named
Linguists of Fooian
. NLeeuw (talk) 20:47, 3 April 2024 (UTC) - Category:Scholars of Medieval Greek to Category:Linguists of Medieval Greek – C2C: Uncles/aunts in Category:Linguists by language of study are all named
Linguists of Fooian
. NLeeuw (talk) 20:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC) - Category:Scholars of Koine Greek to Category:Linguists of Koine Greek – C2C: Uncles/aunts in Category:Linguists by language of study are all named
Linguists of Fooian
. NLeeuw (talk) 20:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC) - Category:Scholars of Ancient Greek to Category:Linguists of Ancient Greek – C2C: Uncles/aunts in Category:Linguists by language of study are all named
Linguists of Fooian
. NLeeuw (talk) 20:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC) - Category:Scholars of Greek language to Category:Linguists of Greek – C2C: Siblings in Category:Linguists by language of study are all named
Linguists of Fooian
. NLeeuw (talk) 20:44, 3 April 2024 (UTC)- Comment Nederlandse Leeuw, I don't think the categories for Scholars of Greek are suitable for speedy renaming as the categories contain a mixture of scholars of Greek language and literature. Also Latin is the other classical language and there is no Category:Linguists of Latin. TSventon (talk) 22:21, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @TSventon I discussed thus with @Fayenatic london in another thread (about Category:Grammarians of Persian), he thought it was a good idea. It's virtually impossible to study the literature of a language without also studying the language itself. (I've been studying Old East Slavic as an amateur lately, because I want to write about Rus' chronicles on Wikipedia). Also, Category:Latinists exists; it currently serves the same function as a Category:Linguists of Latin would. NLeeuw (talk) 02:50, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nederlandse Leeuw, I have looked at the content of the categories and am suggesting that these categories are not suitable for speedy renaming. I am happy for the CfD admins to accept or reject my argument. Studying the literature of a language generally involves studying the language itself, but some academics focus more on literature and others on liguistic topics and this is reflected in our categories. Category:Latinists exists and has a Greek counterpart, Category:Hellenists. TSventon (talk) 14:21, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. I'm not convinced this makes them unsuitable for speedy renaming, but we'll see. Otherwise I'm happy to move to full, although I think it's unnecessary. NLeeuw (talk) 14:24, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think this kind of discussion is better held at a full CfD than here. Ymblanter (talk) 19:43, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 5#Category:Scholars of Greek language. NLeeuw (talk) 10:06, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think this kind of discussion is better held at a full CfD than here. Ymblanter (talk) 19:43, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. I'm not convinced this makes them unsuitable for speedy renaming, but we'll see. Otherwise I'm happy to move to full, although I think it's unnecessary. NLeeuw (talk) 14:24, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nederlandse Leeuw, I have looked at the content of the categories and am suggesting that these categories are not suitable for speedy renaming. I am happy for the CfD admins to accept or reject my argument. Studying the literature of a language generally involves studying the language itself, but some academics focus more on literature and others on liguistic topics and this is reflected in our categories. Category:Latinists exists and has a Greek counterpart, Category:Hellenists. TSventon (talk) 14:21, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @TSventon I discussed thus with @Fayenatic london in another thread (about Category:Grammarians of Persian), he thought it was a good idea. It's virtually impossible to study the literature of a language without also studying the language itself. (I've been studying Old East Slavic as an amateur lately, because I want to write about Rus' chronicles on Wikipedia). Also, Category:Latinists exists; it currently serves the same function as a Category:Linguists of Latin would. NLeeuw (talk) 02:50, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Nederlandse Leeuw, I don't think the categories for Scholars of Greek are suitable for speedy renaming as the categories contain a mixture of scholars of Greek language and literature. Also Latin is the other classical language and there is no Category:Linguists of Latin. TSventon (talk) 22:21, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
PLEASE NOTE: I have moved all of the following Categories here pending adequate confirmation of their eligibility under C2C. I made a serious effort to look for that, but was unable to find such confirmation. There is a massive jumbled welter of Categories in this realm, with no prevailing pattern that I can discern. Anomalous+0 (talk) 07:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:20th-century Canadian people by ethnic or national origin to Category:20th-century Canadian people by descent – C2C: Special:Diff/1196829100 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:51, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian people by century and ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian people by century and descent – C2C: Special:Diff/1196829100 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:51, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:20th-century American people by ethnic or national origin to Category:20th-century American people by descent – C2C: Special:Diff/1195787538. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American people by century and ethnic or national origin to Category:American people by century and decent – C2C: Special:Diff/1195787538. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Male actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Male actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Male television actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Male television actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Television actresses by ethnic or national descent to Category:Television actresses by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Actresses by ethnic or national descent to Category:Actresses by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Television actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Television actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:29, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Anomalous+0, I have linked Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 10#Container categories by descent down below; is that not enough? 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:02, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
++
- Category:American rappers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American rappers by descent – C2C: See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 10#Container categories by descent for all the ones below. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the United States Congress by ethnic or national origin to Category:Members of the United States Congress by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian musicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian musicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American gangsters by ethnic or national origin to Category:American gangsters by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Northern Mariana Islands people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Northern Mariana Islands people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American social scientists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American social scientists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian people by ethnic or national origin and century to Category:Canadian people by descent and century – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Romanian people by ethnic or national origin and occupation to Category:Romanian people by descent and occupation – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Murdered American people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Murdered American people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American sculptors by ethnic or national origin to Category:American sculptors by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American people by ethnic or national origin and century to Category:American people by descent and century – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American classical musicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American classical musicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American male actors by ethnic or national origin to Category:American male actors by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American singers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American singers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Malaysian politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Malaysian politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:French politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:French politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Dutch politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Dutch politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Transnistrian people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Transnistrian people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Brazilian actresses by ethnic or national origin to Category:Brazilian actresses by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:East German people by ethnic or national origin to Category:East German people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American actresses by ethnic or national origin to Category:American actresses by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hawaii people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Hawaii people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Filipino politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Filipino politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Middle Eastern people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Middle Eastern people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Moldovan politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Moldovan politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cebuano people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Cebuano people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Swedish politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Swedish politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:05, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American photographers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American photographers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:05, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Indonesian politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Indonesian politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:05, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Romanian politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Romanian politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American academics by ethnic or national origin to Category:American academics by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American short story writers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American short story writers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American novelists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American novelists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American dramatists and playwrights by ethnic or national origin to Category:American dramatists and playwrights by descent – C2A. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American poets by ethnic or national origin to Category:American poets by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:01, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian trade unionists by ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian trade unionists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:01, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian writers by ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian writers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:01, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian families by ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian families by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:00, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Turks and Caicos Islands people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Turks and Caicos Islands people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Montserratian people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Montserratian people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Manx people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Manx people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Jersey people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Jersey people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Guernsey people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Guernsey people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Caymanian people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Caymanian people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:United States Virgin Islands people by ethnic or national origin to Category:United States Virgin Islands people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sint Maarten people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Sint Maarten people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Saint Martinois people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Saint Martinois people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Martiniquais people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Martiniquais people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from Overseas France by ethnic or national origin to Category:People from Overseas France by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Guadeloupean people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Guadeloupean people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Curaçao people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Curaçao people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Aruban people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Aruban people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Caribbean people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Caribbean people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Anguillan people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Anguillan people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:55, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:British writers by ethnic or national origin to Category:British writers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:55, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Welsh people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Welsh people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Scottish people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Scottish people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies by ethnic or national origin to Category:People from British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from Northern Ireland by ethnic or national origin to Category:People from Northern Ireland by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American writers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American writers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:51, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American trade unionists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American trade unionists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American scientists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American scientists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American professional wrestlers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American professional wrestlers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American physicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American physicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American musicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American musicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American models by ethnic or national origin to Category:American models by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American military personnel by ethnic or national origin to Category:American military personnel by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American lawyers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American lawyers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American journalists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American journalists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American film directors by ethnic or national origin to Category:American film directors by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American educators by ethnic or national origin to Category:American educators by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American comedians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American comedians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American aviators by ethnic or national origin to Category:American aviators by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American artists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American artists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American architects by ethnic or national origin to Category:American architects by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:47, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American actors by ethnic or national origin to Category:American actors by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:47, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American activists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American activists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:46, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American people by occupation and ethnic or national origin to Category:American people by occupation and descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:45, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American people by ethnic or national origin and occupation to Category:American people by descent and occupation – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:44, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for now to all by ethnic or national origin nominations. 46.229.243.187 (talk) 08:35, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- The existing wording sounds more natural and is easier to understand. 46.229.243.187 (talk) 14:34, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- A first attempt to resolve this is here at full discussion: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_March_30#Category:English_people_by_ethnic_or_national_origin and Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_9#Category:Swedish_politicians_by_ethnic_or_national_origin and Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_27#British_people_by_descent. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:53, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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