Talk:Princess Zelda

A few more sources that you might use for Reception

• http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/02/16/guinness-names-top-50-video-game-characters-of-all-time.aspx
• http://www.ugo.com/games/top-10-video-game-characters-screwed-over
• http://www.videogamer.com/features/article/top_10_video_game_crushes.html?page=8

Via Internet Archive:

• http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/galleries/babe-of-the-week-princess-zelda/
• http://www.tomsgames.com/us/2007/02/20/the_50_greatest_female_characters_in_the_history_of_video_games/page2.html

--Niemti (talk) 09:22, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Voice actress in Skyward Sword

Alright, I've seen some sites in the Internet that have contradicting information about who voiced Zelda in Skyward Sword. Some say that it was Yu Shimamura while other say that it was Megumi Toyoguchi. Could someone be kind enough to get a clear confirmation to end this debate? Leader Vladimir (talk) 04:25, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

The fourth Smash Bros. games

@User:Gabriel Yuji, Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Super Smash Bros. for Wii U are, accoring to the current Wikipedia article, respectively the fourth and fifth installments in the Smash Bros. series. "Sheik returned in the fourth Super Smash Bros. game as a separate character from Zelda" seems to only refer to Smash Bros. for 3DS, but this fact is also true for the Wii U version. I suggest "Sheik returned in the fourth and fifth Super Smash Bros. games as a separate character from Zelda." ~Mable (chat) 07:50, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

MaplestriP, get it; it's seems a good option. It can also be "Sheik returned in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Super Smash Bros. for Wii U". You decide. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 15:55, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Zelda's picture change

Should Zelda's picture be changed from her Twilight Princess portrayal to her Breath of the Wild portrayal? It's her most recent appearance, and Twilight Princess came out more than a decade ago, so the current picture is a bit dated. Ashburning (talk) 12:03, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Why was the infobox picture changed back to the one from Twilight Princess? Isn't the latest one available the one that should be used? 178.83.233.148 (talk) 14:22, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

I think the Twilight Princess picture should be kept, as that picture features the closest thing Zelda has to an iconic design, at least in my opinion. Leader Vladimir (talk) 15:40, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Just so you know, the picture on Link's infobox was changed to something that represented all his incarnations equally in an attempt to avoid recentism. Even Ganon's picture is from an older game. Shouldn't we do the same for Zelda, as well? Leader Vladimir (talk) 15:33, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

RfC about picture in the infobox

This article previously used a picture depicting this character as seen on Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, but it has since been reverted to a much older one. Aren't video game character articles meant to use the latest depiction available? 21:07, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

I agree, the image should depict the most recent version of the character to remain consistent across the board according to WP:CONSISTENCY guidelines in case the character is mentioned in other articles across Wikipedia. Sixteensixtyfive (talk) 18:55, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

It should probably be the latest depiction from a main-line Zelda game, not a cross-franchise spin-off game. Smash has its own style that isn't quite the same as the Zelda franchise. ApLundell (talk) 19:49, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Summoned by bot. Agree with User:ApLundell - use last image of Zelda from main-line game. Meatsgains^(talk) 00:40, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

I disagree. Zelda's depiction is updated so often in so many games that trying to keep up with her "current" look would waste effort and be confusing, especially if she undergoes a design change that clashes with her historical look as a princess. I think the current image, which captures her typical "princess-y" design, is fine forever if we can agree that it embodies the character well, unless Nintendo does something drastic like declaring Zelda will always be a pirate going forward, or something._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 19:02, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

How much is too often? This is honestly an important question. From what I was able to see for myself, there has been at most 7 distinctively different depictions (or 9 if you include Sheik and Tetra) across 33 years. All of these depictions had at most a span of 4 years before a completely new design was introduced. Is 4 years really too often? 19:32, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

I associate her with the eldest image. But, at least we should consider adding the year of the infobox picture. If one is reading quickly, they might assume that this is representative of the "first year". I don't see much applicable in WP:CONSISTENCY, WP:IUP, or MOS:IMAGELEAD on this issue.Fred (talk) 16:51, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

• Agree - If all articles on video game characters use the most recent design, that should be used across the board and Zelda shouldn't be an exception just because the older design is more iconic or the one that most people associate her with. PraiseVivec (talk) 13:17, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

There are multiple characters by this name.

I can understand them not each getting their own page, but this acts like they're all the same person. Every girl in the Hyrulean royal family is named Zelda, and the games have featured many of them. This is like if there was a page on King Henry that just grouped them all into one person. The Zelda from Skyward Sword was a reincarnation of the Goddess Hylia, but from what I can find there's nothing saying all of them are reincarnations, and in any case if that's the implication here it seems like it would be more sensible to refer to her as Hylia. Also, the ones from Legend of Zelda and Zelda II: Adventure of Link are alive at the same time, which wouldn't work unless reincarnation involves time travel. — DanielLC 06:33, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

You made this same argument on the talk page for for Link, so I have replied there.

ApLundell (talk) 07:26, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

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Needs to be rewritten - Several Zeldas

The page is a bit misleading in my opinion. Anyone who reads it could think all Zeldas are actually the same, which is the opposite. besides a few exceptions, they're all different characters with the same name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wizard2222 (talk • contribs) 20:02, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Sexism in the 'Reception and legacy' section

The article's 'Reception and Legacy' section has a strong gender bias, mostly discussing how 'hot' and 'beautiful' a 'babe' the Zelda character is. This is inappropriate and should be rewritten to focus on the cultural impact of the the Zelda princess character, or removed altogether.

Skadge (talk) 11:17, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

A news search for "Princess Zelda" shows the first results mentioning her beauty. The Hyrule Historia, official book of Nintendo, says the creator of the Zelda series wanted a "timeless beauty and classic appeal" and thought the name Zelda fit for "eternal beauty". Forbes has an article about her beauty. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tanyaakim/2021/02/21/the-legend-of-zelda-turns-35-today-heres-a-look-at-how-princess-zelda-influenced-beauty-culture/?sh=11d9eab615e6 "when it comes to beauty, Princess Zelda is the original influencer." Dream Focus 12:37, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Article needs updating and expanding

This article is hugely out of date (no mention of Age of Calamity). It also provides no commentary regarding her role within the series other than basic reactions from critics. There are plenty of articles from reliable sources that discuss the character in detail. Perhaps when I have finished with Link, this should be the next priority. Fieryninja (talk) 11:16, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Issues with voice refs

I've been trying to figure out what's up with the refs in the list of Japanese voice actors, and attempting to fix them, but to no avail. Could someone more Wikipedia-savvy help with this? Thanks. EthanRossie2000 08:40, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

OK I have fixed the cite errors. The efn template markup was incorrect so I have updated it with the correct mark up. Not sure why it was wrong. Maybe the old mark up is defunct and no one noticed the cite errors? I don't really know. Fieryninja (talk) 18:37, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Princess Zelda/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: ProtoDrake (talk · contribs) 21:55, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi. I'll do my best with this. Hopefully take two of this review will go better than the other. --ProtoDrake (talk) 21:55, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Initial general comments.

• The "Characterization" section probably needs merging into a single section, as Shelk is just one paragraph, and the Tetra paragraph also includes later incarnations.
• There are several instances of double and triple-linking to games, which feels like some bits were left over from an earlier article draft.
• The "Legend of Zelda" part of "Appearances" is a drag to get through, and I think needs some rearranging/rewriting. It also feels like the plot summaries could be trimmed a little, which might help with the feeling of bloat.
• Double-check the sources. I saw ScreenRant/GameRant, which are owned by Valnet. There's also a lot of inconsistancy in citation style. --ProtoDrake (talk) 19:35, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

@Fieryninja: This is just some initial thoughts, not detailed. I'll put it On Hold for now, so we can take our time with this article. -- ProtoDrake (talk) 19:10, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

ProtoDrake So far I've weeded out some duplicate wikilinks and removed the subheads in the characterisation section. Is it worth keeping the wikilinks in the appearances section or is that too much? Fieryninja (talk) 20:05, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@Fieryninja: In the appearances section, it's fine. It was multiple links elsewhere that was raising my eyebrows. --ProtoDrake (talk) 20:32, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@Fieryninja Hey there, I'm just a random passerby editor helping out with articles here and there. I think I am pretty good with Copyedits so I went ahead and did a edit trimming and rearranging that big "LoZ" thing under the Appearances section. Let me know if you require further assistance, I'd be happy to help. Dcdiehardfan (talk) 04:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Dcdiehardfan Thanks its a good start. I'm not convinced by the subheads though, as there are only two, and they don't break up the text consistently. I'll try to look through it today. Fieryninja (talk) 08:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

I think the appearances section is definitely improved now. I will move on to finding better sources to replace the Valnet citations. Fieryninja (talk) 12:36, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

@Fieryninja Yea for sure. I think I'm good with copyedit and did the subheading as kind of a placeholder just so the information can be broken up a bit easier rather than being a bill wall of text. You can of course rearrange the section in a more appropriate manner and I'm glad to see that it's been done. Dcdiehardfan (talk) 22:35, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

ProtoDrake I've been weeding out the Valnet sources, but do we need to replace all of them? Am asking because Miyamoto spoke directly to Game Rant about the Sheik spin off game so that would be the main source. I have not used any Valnet sources for the reception. Fieryninja (talk) 18:51, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

@Fieryninja: I think it may be passable as an interview. I'm just distrustful of them on principle. I'd want to double-check it, as it's from 2016 and doesn't list the article's author at all. --ProtoDrake (talk) 19:35, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

ProtoDrake I found another interview with Gamekult to replace it, so hopefully that issue is resolved. Fieryninja (talk) 22:00, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

@Fieryninja: That solves the issue admirably in my opinion. The article's much improved. I'll give it another look over, and have any feedback or updates ready in the next few days. --ProtoDrake (talk) 22:10, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Fieryninja I couldn't find anything to hold it up, so I'll give this a Pass. If you want to take it further, or further improve things, then checking how many images this article needs realistically, and making sure references are archived. --ProtoDrake (talk) 23:13, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

That's great news. I'm so pleased. Thanks for reviewing! Fieryninja (talk) 23:14, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 02:33, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that Princess Zelda's name was inspired by American novelist and socialite Zelda Fitzgerald? Source: https://www.denofgeek.com/games/why-the-legend-of-zelda-isnt-named-after-link/
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Improved to Good Article status by Fieryninja (talk). Self-nominated at 22:25, 10 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Princess Zelda; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• QPQ done for Peckham Rock Fieryninja (talk) 21:50, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

• that each boldlinked article is new enough. Y Recently GA.
• that each boldlinked article is long enough. Y Again, definitely.
• that each boldlinked article is well-sourced, neutral, BLP-compliant, and copyvio-free. Y Wanted to double-check on the images, but I think the commentary in the prose makes it okay. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:43, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• that each boldlinked article is presentable. Y All good.
• that the hook is cited to a reliable source. Y Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources has Denofgeek as a reliable source.
• that the hook is interesting. Y Real-world element of a fictional character is probably the best way to go with this.
• that any images are freely licensed, clear at a diminished size, and used in the article. Y Again, I believe this to be okay from the copyvio statement above.
• that each QPQ has been done, where necessary. Y Looks like it is okay for Peckham Rock QPQ.
• that there are no other, more subjective issues. Y Nothing major from my read-through.

• I believe this qualifies for a DYK. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:43, 19 January 2024 (UTC)