Talk:Caernarfon Castle

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Good articleCaernarfon Castle has been listed as one of the Warfare good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Good topic starCaernarfon Castle is part of the Castles and Town Walls of King Edward in Gwynedd series, a good topic. This is identified as among the best series of articles produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve it, please do so.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
October 3, 2010Good article nomineeListed
February 19, 2013Good topic candidatePromoted
Current status: Good article

Caernarfon castle or Caernarfon Castle?[edit]

There's another article at Caernarfon castle. You might want to merge the two or something. -Nommo — Preceding undated comment added 12:53, 3 July 2003 (UTC)[reply]

I've done it instead. More stuff linked to this version, so I've put it all here. -Nommo — Preceding undated comment added 15:47, 3 July 2003 (UTC)[reply]

"legend states"[edit]

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This entry is one of only seventeen that have won the March 2005 West Dakota Prize for successfully employing the expression "legend states" in a complete sentence. --Wetman 08:25, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Castle Dimensions[edit]

What are the castle's dimensions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.199.41.135 (talk • contribs) 14:27, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Roman Fort[edit]

My recollection was that the Roman fort was on a different site, near the town, rather than literally on the same site (as the article says). I may be wrong and am thereofre not altering the article. Peterkingiron (talk) 09:31, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're correct. The fort is about a mile to the south. The article should make this clearer. Mei 15:09, 28 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meigwil (talk • contribs)

Image copyright problem with Image:Charles investiture.jpg[edit]

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Caer Myrddin?[edit]

Never heard of this before. I have reverted the edit (made on 1/11/09). This should be in the Caernarfon article anyway. Please provide references if you want to include the quote. Mei (talk) 19:59, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Caernarfon Castle/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk) 02:52, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Disambiguations: none found. Jezhotwells (talk) 02:53, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Linkrot: none found. Jezhotwells (talk) 02:53, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Checking against GA criteria[edit]

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
    The work cost between £20,000 and £25,000 from the start until the end of work in 1330. Can you find a modern equivalent of this cost?
    After consideration of this at Talk:St Briavels Castle/GA1, I realise that this would not be appropriate.
    Wales and England had historically been enemies, and war broke out again between England and Wales on 22 March 1282. since when?
    I think John (talk · contribs) made a good point when he copy edited that bit. Nev1 (talk) 23:59, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    ... who played an important role in building the Edwardian castles in Wales. Edwardian is commonly used in the UK to refer to the period of the Edwardian era. Can this be rephrased for clarity?
    In most contexts Edwardian does mean the first decade of the 20th century, but in this instance I think it's quite clear that it refers to the reign of Edward I. Nev1 (talk) 23:59, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    A temporary barricade, known as a bretagium... Can this be explained?
    Does this make things clear enough? Nev1 (talk) 21:41, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    ''...with the most important administrative jobs in Wales usually closed to Welsh. Welsh people would be better.
    Done. Nev1 (talk) 23:59, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    in 1538 it was reported that many castles in Wales were "moche ruynous and ferre in decaye for lakke of tymely reparations". needs attribution in th text, even though cited.
    Although Caernarfon Castle has been the property of the Crown since it was built, it is currently cared for by Cadw. Although wiki-linked Cadw needs explanation or expansion to "Cadw: Welsh Historic Monuments".
    I've clarified Cadw's role. Nev1 (talk) 23:59, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    Well referenced, all on-line references check out.
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    Where did the stone come from, what type of stone is it?
    To repeat a comment on the talk page, what are the castle's dimensions. Can a modern plan be found?
    I had added a modern plan, but it got deleted. I asked for advice on the situation regarding derivative works from architectural plans but none was forthcoming. Due to mixed messages, I decided that it was probably not worth it. The layout is relatively simply so can be described adequately without a plan, although one would be desirable. Nev1 (talk) 23:59, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    Well illustrated with appropriate imagery illustrating the text and suitable licensing or rationales.
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
    On hold for seven days for above issues to be addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 03:16, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, thanks for the improvements, I am happy to pass this now. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:35, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review, it was helpful for improving the article. Nev1 (talk) 18:35, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Towards FAC[edit]

I had been planning to take this article to FAC, however after consulting a bibliography on Caernarfon to see what was missing, the following book seems essential if the article is to satisfy criterion 1c: Williams, Diane (2009), The Impact of the Edwardian Castles in Wales, Oxbow Books, ISBN 978-1842173800. While the books by Arnold Taylor currently used in the article certainly cover the main points on the subject, the volume edited by Williams would seem to include the latest research on Caernarfon and should probably be consulted before this article goes further. Unfortunately, I do not have access to the book so for the time being Caernarfon Castle will not be visiting WP:FAC. Nev1 (talk) 18:37, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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