Talk:Arthur French, 5th Baron de Freyne

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This article looks like a copyvio but I can't find a source. Rl 07:38, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Hello,

I am a newbie to Wikipedia, so I can't say exactly what you might regard as a "copyvio" (I assume, copyright violation in Newspeak?). I can tell you this: I wrote this article. It was my first submission to Wikipedia. I am the historian of Ft. Slocum, where some of the events described occurred. It was based on my research, which included internet sites with information on the French family; a digital database of old newspaper articles from a century ago which told this fascinating but lost story; my own reading of Pvt. French's American military records from NARA plus my own reading of returns of monthly returns of post from Ft. Slocum; and a visit last summer to the battlefield on which Capt. French died, in search of his grave. (This last item occurred after my posting; I failed to find his grave, but then most of the thousands of soldiers who died that day have no graves there either.) This is an original article based on my readings of the above sources, which was written by myself alone and has appeared nowhere else; though it will form part of my upcoming general history of Ft. Slocum and Davids' Island.

As a newbie, I must say I am simultaneously delighted and appalled by your allegation. Delighted, because I was skeptical that Wikipedia just accepted any submission without criticism; appalled because you impeach its provenance yet admit you can find no evidence that it is illegitimate.

Again as a newbie I do not know well the rules which seem to operate; for instance I posted the article with my email address in case anyone wanted to reply critically, but now I notice this has been deleted by one of the many editors. Yet I assume somehow my posting must be traceable (and indeed the address deleted by one editor appears in the history), and if you have any questions they might have been -- and still may be -- addressed to me directly; so if it is not against the rules, please do, to michaelacavanaugh@earthlink.net. I mean this sincerely. I understand Wikipedia, and cyberpublication generally, is a new and evolving field, so if I am clueless please clue me in (to the extent even of referring me to Wikipedia 101 if such exists); in the spirit of he who criticizes me, makes me better. Michael A Cavanaugh 06:39, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Marriage

The comment that his marriage "appears to have been short lived" is questionable. The couple may have lived apart for considerable periods and certainly produced no children, but they never legally divorced. After his death his wife continued to appear in "Kelly's Handbook" listed as "Annabel, lady De Freyne" until her last entry in 1962 (year she died, according to "Complete Peerage, Volume XIV").Cloptonson (talk) 14:50, 2 March 2013 (UTC) I have decided to delete this phrase in view of the lacking evidence and refer to their marriage being childless.Cloptonson (talk) 22:21, 2 March 2013 (UTC)