Category talk:Presidents of the Cambridge Union

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Which other categories should this go in (if any)? Mpntod 13:10, Aug 23, 2004 (UTC)

Would it not make sense to rename this page 'Famous Presidents of the Cambridge Union Society'? The Union has three presidents a year, most of whom will not go on to warrant an entry in wikipedia. --Evil Capitalist 13:33, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't the notability implicit for any category page? If someone doesn't appear in Wikipedia, then they won't appear in any category list. As close examples, the Footlights category doesn't include everyone who ever appeared in Footlights, the Alumni of Cambridge University doesn't include everyone who ever went to Cambridge, and British Academics doesn't include anyone who was ever an academic. In theory we could 'famous' to the name of almost every category in wikipedia - but I don't see what purpose it would serve. Mpntod 16:07, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

True. But then again, in categories like List of presidents of Bolivia you'll find plenty of people who aren't terribly famous (for example Eusebio Guilarte Vera, whose rule literally covered the Christmas holidays in 1847). Now if, for example, I wanted to actually find who was President of the Union in Lent term 2004, this list looks as if might answer my questions, but doesn't. Ideally, the list would provide a full list of these lesser Presidents, but in the absence of this, does it not make sense to try and make it clear what we've got here?

I think we need to keep the list and the category separate. There's a list at List of Cambridge Union Society Presidents, which is comprehensive. The category of Presidents of the Cambridge Union Society is generated automatically when someone notable is categorised as an ex-President of the Cambridge Union Society (through adding [[Category:President of the Cambridge Union Society]] to their Wikipedia entry). Because it's a category, it only gets someone added to it when they are notable enough in their own right to feature in the Wikipedia. Mpntod 20:46, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

PS: it's the same as the difference between the list of Presidents of Bolivia at President of Bolivia (which has 63 people listed) and the category of Presidents of Bolivia which only has 21 people listed. Mpntod 20:56, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ooops- didn't see that. I stand embarrassingly corrected. I'll edit the page so that this is a little more apparent to the next person determined to make a fool of themselves.--Evil Capitalist 17:40, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]