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Incorrect use of EU flag[edit]

I removed the EU flag in line with the rule "Do not use supranational flags without direct relevance" in the flag usage guide. It was immediately reverted by an anonymous IP, but as the competition is being hosted across Europe and not the EU, the use of the EU flag is incorrect. I've re-added the host as "The Continent of Europe" with a reference to UEFA, and removed the erroneous flag.Bmcollier (talk) 13:31, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree Use of EU flag is incorrect in that section.
England, Russia, Azerbaijan and Scotland were host and did not belong to the EU. Rey1996ss (talk) 19:31, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is NOT European Union flag, but its Flag of Europe, as explained below by someone else and also in edit summary Snowflake91 (talk) 19:51, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This keeps on getting vandalised back to the incorrect flag by anonymous accounts Bmcollier (talk) 19:02, 3 July 2021 (UTC).[reply]

The usage of the flag is correct, as can be seen by consulting the Flag of Europe article, it was also adopted by the European Union and other European institutions but that has not meant it does not still function as the continental flag. Kaiserjaeger0 (talk) 14:59, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal (incorrect use of EU symbols).[edit]

This a little proposal for 2020 edition, use of EU its not the better idea for use this time. Reason:

1.- European Championships it's a deportive competition and its held for an organization called UEFA. European Union it's no a deportive organization.
2.- Azerbaijan, England, Russia and Scotland were host and did not belong to the EU.
3.- The official UEFA symbols, inside the stadiums as well, are: Home-team flag, Away-team flag, host country flag, FIFA flag, UEFA flag and slogan flag/Fair Play.
4.- The organization of UEFA Euro 2020 was not held/in charge of the Council of Europe or EU. Perhaps these options can be published:

Option 1 Europe. (perfectly represents the territory where it was played).
Option 2 Europe. (represents the operating territory).

Thank You so much! @Bmcollier Rey1996ss (talk) 19:58, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - It is clearly explained at Flag of Europe that the blue flag with yellow stars officially represents the entire continent and not just the Union, so its perfecetly fine to use it. And this is Wikipedia, not UEFA organization, we are not bound to use the flags that UEFA is using inside stadiums, so your 3rd and 4th reason makes no sense. Snowflake91 (talk) 20:09, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well the article actually states that it's the flag of the Council of Europe, a supranational organisation, despite the summary box containing an unsourced entry stating "continental flag of Europe" which isn't a thing. And it may have originally been the flag of the Council of Europe, but the article clearly states that "Dual use by the CoE and EU become controversial in non-EU CoE states such as Switzerland. As a result the CoE in 1999 introduced, for its own use, a variant flag superimposing a silver cursive "e" through and around the circle of golden stars." So by your logic, it would make more sense to use the new flag of the Council of Europe, as displayed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Europe#/media/File:Council_of_Europe_logo_(2013_revised_version).svg
But regardless of whether it's perceived as the flag of the EU, or the CoE, they're both supranational organisations, whose flags, as mentioned by the contributor below, shouldn't be used without relevance. Neither the CoE nor the EU *are* the continent of Europe. From the style guide: "For instance, the Flag of Europe is appropriately used on articles related to the European Union, the Council of Europe and other situations where this flag can be used to represent Europe. In sport, supranational flags should only be used to represent a supranational team or a supranational competition, where the team or competition use the supranational flag." That was not the case in this competition, so it seems rather cut and dried to me. Bmcollier (talk) 07:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Yes, agree. The edition not was "Uefa Euro Council of Europe 2020". The EU is a political/economic organization, this is a sporting event. The flag usage guide says: Do not use supranational flags without direct relevance.
Flags should be used with moderation. 201.160.207.198 (talk) 16:43, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What a surprise, a Mexico-based IP with no previous edits, agreeing with the user also interested in Mexico-related articles, in a dispute about flags in European competitions out of nowhere – and it also happens that both the IP and the user edited Revelations Cup in the span of a few hours...what a coincidence... if you're socking, then at least dont make it so obvious. You know that this can get your account blocked, right? Snowflake91 (talk) 17:12, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Yes, agree. The flag might have been classified as a flag of the continent of Europe, but no-one understands it that way, and defining it as such is almost an act of EU jingoism. And I prefer option 1. Bmcollier (talk) 07:27, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Both of those alternatives are useless anyway, so if we remove the EU flag it should be replaced with nothing, it should be only "2020" without any flags or icons. Snowflake91 (talk) 09:21, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't disagree, but the problem I fear with doing that is that someone with helpful intent will come along and re-add the EU flag without reading the Talk section. Bmcollier (talk) 11:21, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - It isn't the flag of the European Union, it's the flag of the Council of Europe, which includes (or has included) all of the recognised nations of Europe (and almost all of the UEFA nations). Use of the Flag of Europe to represent the various nations that hosted Euro 2020 is not unreasonable. – PeeJay 16:37, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect UEFA Euro 2036 has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 5 § UEFA Euro 2036 until a consensus is reached. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:50, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Euro 2028 - United Kingdom & Ireland[edit]

Please note that it is United Kingdom & Ireland in the bid and in the official announcement – https://www.uefa.com/returntoplay/news/0286-1923eef9a9a6-68c007509a1b-1000--euro-2028-and-2032-hosts-confirmed/ - and that the 4 UK countries composing the United Kingdom are included in the note (as per the 11 countries of Euro 2020 for example). 178.232.151.10 (talk) 14:53, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are deliberately being selective in your use of facts here. The source you have provided makes absolutely no mention whatsoever of the United Kingdom. Rather, it confirms twice, that the hosts are England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, and NOT the United Kingdom (which does not have its own FA therefore in the eyes of UEFA is not a member and not eligible).
The football associations of England, Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland, Scotland and Wales submitted a joint bid to stage UEFA EURO 2028. - UEFA via the source you have provided.
Additionally:
EURO final tournament hosts
1960: France
1964: Spain
1968: Italy
1972: Belgium
1976: Yugoslavia
1980: Italy
1984: France
1988: West Germany
1992: Sweden
1996: England
2000: Belgium and Netherlands
2004: Portugal
2008: Austria and Switzerland
2012: Poland and Ukraine
2016: France
2020: Pan-Europe (Azerbaijan, Denmark, England, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Netherlands, Romania, Russia, Scotland, Spain)
2024: Germany
2028: England, Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Wales
2032: Italy, Türkiye
Above, you will see that UEFA have stated, plainly, simply and clearly, that the confirmed host nations of 2028 are England, Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Wales - no mention whatsoever of the United Kingdom. Please refrain from your disruptive edits regarding this manner without providing a UEFA source that supports your change. Goodreg3 (talk) 19:49, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly the fact that you @Goodreg3 are a staunch and ardent Scottish nationalist has nothing to do with the fact that you do not want to see the United Kingdom flag and name appear, I would, however, point out to other users a strong conflict of interest in this gentleman on this issue. The fact remains that Euro 2028 (even on its own Wikipedia page) shows up as United Kingdom & Ireland 2028. 178.232.151.10 (talk) 10:21, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh gosh, how low. This has nothing to do with nationalism, merely the fact that the source you have provided (the official UEFA source might I add), confirms that each individual country of Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland are the hosts, no mention of the United Kingdom whatsoever. If you're going to play the nationalism card here, perhaps the same argument could be applied to you coming across as a unionist? As I said, nothing to do with Scottish nationalism, merely providing the information on Wikipedia that UEFA have confirmed. Goodreg3 (talk) 11:59, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The UEFA Euro 2028 article does not say the words "United Kingdom & Ireland 2028" whatsoever. It says "UK & Ireland" in the logo, but that's because of branding. It would be ridiculous to put the names of all five countries on that logo. As Goodreg3 has pointed out, UEFA.com refers to England, Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland, Scotland and Wales as the host nations on multiple occasions. – PeeJay 11:44, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move page to UEFA European Football Championship[edit]

Please move the page to UEFA European Football Championship as that is the official name of the tournament, UEFA European Championship is just a shorter name for the tournament and not the official name. AhmedEdits (talk) 10:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We use common names used in media, not official full names. Snowflake91 (talk) 11:08, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

UEFA Euro 2028[edit]

@Snowflake91: UEFA Euro 2028 Must be the United Kingdom and Ireland only to abbreviate. --Patcha007 (talk) 12:37, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See above, the UEFA.com link posted by PeeJay literally says that England, Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Wales are the hosts of Euro 2028. Snowflake91 (talk) 12:39, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Snowflake91: So why not combine the UK and Ireland? 🤔 --Patcha007 (talk) 13:03, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because UEFA don't do that. The UK is not a single nation when it comes to football. – PeeJay 16:17, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]