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Untitled[edit]

"Commodore" is misspelled under "Guest Actors" list.

How, exactly did the Enterprise returning to Starfleet lead to the events in ST:TMP? The Menagerie wasn't the final episode of the original series, and I can't think of anything in the V'ger plot that relates to the Talosians. Please explain. Otherwise, I'll remove that reference. MrItty 19:42, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Although "The Menagerie" was not the final episode, timeline-wise, it takes place just before the Enterprise returns to Starfleet for re-fitting (for ST: TMP). All the events in the first season take place after the events in season two and three.

Where on earth did you ever hear such nonsense? MrItty 20:36, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Personal log, stardate 041204.6...it is not nonsense if you look at things. Stardate out.

You've failed to show any evidence of any kind to support this theory that TOS episodes were not shown in chronological order. I'm removing the reference. MrItty 12:54, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Fleet Captain[edit]

Shouldn't Chris Pike's rank be 'Fleet Captain'? That's his rank in this episode. GoodDay 20:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He's alternatingly referred to as "Captain" and "Fleet Captain" throughout the two-parter. It's not unlike how, in TNG, Geordi was referred to as simply "Lieutenant" when he was still Lieutenant junior grade, and later "Commander" when he was a Lieutenant Commander (as was Data). - Pennyforth 20:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Still though, would it be alright to add 'Fleet Captain' to the picture, plus add a wiki-link? Example: Fleet Captain Pike. GoodDay 20:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've decided to add 'Fleet Captain' in the picture. GoodDay 22:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Green Orion slave girl[edit]

The Orion slave girl is referred to (in The Menagerie (Star Trek)#Cultural references) as being green. However, judging from the movie I watched on my computer monitor (I unfortunately never had the benefit of watching this series on TV), the skin of the woman is anything but green -- actually some shade of very dark gray. Am I color-blind, or is the file on my hard disk faulty, or what? -- Nahum (talk) 13:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adjust your monitor. She is green in the VHS and DVD copies that I have, and in all the color stills I have seen. — Walloon (talk) 15:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This sequence of "The Cage" (reused in "The Menagerie" was clearly inspired by a scene in the 1963 feature film "Jason and the Argonauts" where Nancy Kovack portrayed Medea, all painted gold, dancing in the temple of Hecate. Jason's eventual recognition of Medea (in gold paint) is mirrored in Pike's eventual recognition of Vina (now all green). Even the musical scores bear some resemblance in those scenes. Have a look, and make a note of it in the article, if you will, Wiki editors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.246.125.126 (talk) 18:44, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Clearly" is an opinion; we have no way of knowing one hundred percent if that is a fact. Sorry. We can probably say that it resembles that scene, but I see no point in doing so. Lots of scenes from lots of films/television shows bear a resemblance. Sir Rhosis (talk) 22:02, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Running time of first part?[edit]

The running time of the first part of "The Menagerie" is about a minute shorter (49:20 on the non-remastered first season yellow plastic box DVD release, including the Desilu 1978 / Paramount extra credits at the very end) than all the other ST:TOS first season episodes (all of which are roughly 50:20 to 50:30). Did this Episode, as originally broadcast, end with a preview of the second part? Or is there any other explanation for the shorter length? Please add this info if you know. -- 77.7.162.246 (talk) 20:44, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Spock's limp[edit]

I was wondering if anybody knew why Leonard Nimoy's character, Spock, was limping before seeing the "Musical Lilies", as I call them, on Talos IV. 134.228.242.64 (talk) 01:58, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be worth adding a "continuity" section?[edit]

Given that this episode ties into events in Season 2 of Star Trek: Discovery and Season 1 of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds?

A "continuity" section is fairly common practice in the Doctor Who episode articles, for example. 64.229.94.57 (talk) 19:57, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]