Talk:Marshmallow

Beefsteak edit

Please, do not vandalize Wikipedia. The entire first heading tells the uses of marshmallows for all. The veg info tells people what most don't realize (that gelatin is an animal product)--the anon edit is foolish and adds nothing useful. An omnivore could heat marshmallows with anything, or with nothing else at all. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 07:04, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

There's no user named Beefsteak, as far as I can tell. --67.172.99.160 00:41, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Stop Deleting the Little Guy!

Hey! Why is it that people always remove the little guy. We don't remove Peeps or any big corporate entity, yet I see my sight removed. We are an award winning Marshmallow Maker and we make artisan marshmallows. Hand-made the old fashion way. No molds or machines are used in our process.....Please Support the little guy and don't remove our link. Corporate sites are OK, but the world can't fit into one Walmart Like category. Allow people to decide for themselves. No need to be a Wikipedia NAZI!

Please demonstrate Split Bean Coffee's fulfillment of the Wikipedia notability guidelines for companies and corporations before adding your external link again. Thank you. --Icarus 22:33, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I have removed all the advertising external links. Wikipedia is not an advertising medium, and NO link should go to an ordering page, either primarily or secondarily. To the SplitBean guy, you could try to start an article about your company IF there is something notable about other than you make yet another recipe for a marshmallow (such as that your marshmallows sing to you, or roast themselves, or something really notable). BUT remember that if you start a company article, critical information about your company can allow be included by others. -- Cecropia 02:24, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Calling people Nazis is never useful, in Wikipedia or politics. -- Cecropia 03:14, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Splitbean, do you think that if you keep adding your company's link that we'll get tired and give in? Cecropia and I have both explained what criteria must be met before a company can be considered notable by Wikipedia standards. If you keep adding your company's link without demonstrating its notability, then this is considered spam (see this link for the relevant Wikipedia guidelines). If you keep spamming, then you will be blocked from editing sooner or later. Please, don't make it come to that. --Icarus 21:56, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

image

The Pink Marshmallow Image is possible the worst photo of a marshmallow I can imagine. You can barely tell its shape, and as the caption says, it's an uncommon colour. Can anyone help out? -- TheMightyQuill 14:25, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Eggs come from chickens...

So would that not that not mean that the 'original' recipe for marshmallows would also be non-vegetarian? No meat! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.50.67.228 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 4 June 2006.

Eggs are an animal product but they are not "meat." Vegetarian societies almost always use eggs and milk, and most chicken eggs consumed are not fertile, if you want to take the further step of concern on eating something that could theoretically turn into an animal. As the article explains, "vegetarian" marshmallows can contain egg whites, but "vegan" marshmallows do not. -- Cecropia 03:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Aw man, Cecropia beat me to it! But I wrote my whole little response before seeing the dreaded "edit conflict" notice, so I'm going to go ahead and post it anyway :-P

Eggs are not vegan, so traditional marshmallows (and marshmallow fluff) are not vegan. Eggs are vegetarian, however, so gelatin-free marshmallows are indeed vegetarian. Eggs are not considered meat by vegetarians because they do not require the chickens to be killed. The eggs used in Western cooking are not fertilized, so calling them meat would be like calling a woman's monthly period an abortion. (Sorry if that grosses anyone out for any reason, but it's the most accurate analogy.) Some vegetarians choose not to eat eggs for various reasons, and some cultures do consider fertilized eggs to be a delicacy, but in general eggs are suitable for vegetarians. --Icarus 03:16, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

As a lacto-ovo vegetarian, I can confirm that the vast majority of vegetarians eat (unfertilised) eggs and milk products, and those who do not are generally vegan, have allergies, or do it for a religious reason (I know Jains who are lacto vegetarians, and do not eat egg products). Joseph Sanderson 00:08, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Deaths section

Is that really relevant?

If it is, it probably doesn't need 5 references. I suspect that the content could be better placed elsewhere, since I don't feel it merits a section of its own. Perhaps it would be better placed in a Chubby Bunnies article? Joseph Sanderson 22:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree that the information shouldn't necessarily be in this article. I propose that we merge anything not already in Chubby Bunny and add a "See also" wikilink to the bottom of this one. Because of today's drama, though, I think the merge should be put off for a couple of days to let things cool down before making any major changes. Just to be on the safe side. --Icarus ^(Hi!) 22:47, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Before removing sourced statement you should discuss it. Deadliness of marshmallow has a section of its own (with 5 sources). This aspect of marshmallow has multiple sources. In fact it's the only sourced section. So this means that it is of great importance and should have its place in the header.

With your logic, every article that is about an object that can cause someone to asphyxiate should include information about people choking on them. That's right, an article on Car keys should include such. :: Colin Keigher (Talk) 14:26, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I also was thinking likewise, but I was naive. First, I removed this fear mongering non-sense, but fellows above, commited to marshmallow awareness, reverted my edits. I've try to reason them with examples that we don't have Death by Pizza section in Pizza, nor Death by Hot Dogs in Hot Dogs, but with no result. They have convinced me that to deny deadliness of marshmallow is an act of vandalism, so if that is Wiki consensus, it is fine with me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.118.108.138 (talk) 16:20, 23 December 2006 (UTC).

The section is completely stupid, has been removed and will stay removed. People can choke and die on anything (and do.) We already have the Chubby Bunny article to cover marshmallow-related stupidity, and I've added a Chubby Bunny link in the "see also" section. The "danger" does not need to be present in the main marshmallow article unless someone has reliable information that marshmallows are, in fact, inherently more dangerous than most other types of food. --Lode Runner 05:40, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Not that it's worth an edit, but this is not wholly consistent with the approach taken in this section on the health hazards of mochi which are similar to marshmallows (i.e. soft, chewy, round confections).VeritasCurat (talk) 17:09, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Proper toasting technique

"A popular, traditional treat is created by toasting marshmallows usually over a campfire or other source of open flame."

I know that the image of someone toasting a marshmellow on a stick over a roaring fire is a popular one, but it's pretty inaccurate (at least, it for those of us that do not enjoy eating pure carbon.) It takes forever to toast a marshmellow over flame if you take care to ensure that it doesn't catch on fire. It makes much more sense to roast the main course (which, unlike marshmellows, is usually not flammable) over the open flame, let the fire die down while you eat, and toast your marshmellows over the flameless (but still very hot) *coals*. Sure, I've known impatient people (mostly kids) who're happy to stick their marshmellows in the flame--usually resulting in nothing more than a gooey center coated by sooty, bitter blackness--but most campers I've met prefer the golden brown, carmalized, quick-and-easy toasting that coals offer. Perhaps the open-flame method is more popular due to widespread ignorance and/or impatience, but the coal method should at least be mentioned. --Lode Runner 22:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I've run into more burned marshmallows using the supposedly proper method you recommend which actually takes long to toast a marshmallow. There is no one proper way, you just have to be careful and pay close attention to what you are doing. - annonymous 1/16/2011 2:37 AM EST. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.64.8.201 (talk) 07:37, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Most marshmallows are free of eggs

I believe marshmallows today usually do not contain egg whites. My wife is allergic to egg whites yet does not have any reaction to marshmallows. Take a look at http://home.howstuffworks.com/question128.htm for a recipe to make your own (no egg).

Also, look at http://www.itdg.org/docs/technical_information_service/marshmallows.pdf especially where it says that perfectly good marshmallows can be made without egg white. Such egg-free marshmallows are also relatively resistant to spoilage.I cannot BELIEVE that marshmallows are made from animal marrow. I'll never eat a marshmallow again!

History

Some history on the marshmallow would be nice. The page mentions the company that holds the patent and the approximate time period they were invented. A more specific time, place, and inventor would be nice, if known. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.230.161.164 (talk) 14:33, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

While I hate to question whether the no-longer-available source#3 is the truth, whole truth, and nothing but the truth, I'm not sure I believe that 1948 was the first time people tried making them cylinder shaped or extruding them. I'm not old enough to have first-hand evidence, but they show up in a 1945 movie in the same size and shape as we have them today. (Wonder Man - see here @ 8:28.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.0.207.166 (talk) 05:08, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to know WHY the gladiators rubbed marshmallow goo all over their bodies. To look sexy? Don't leave the reader to just assume it's a weird cultural thing.

Manufacture

How are marshmallows manufactured? Specifically, why aren't they sticky on the outside? ~MDD4696 02:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

they are not sticky on the outside because they are coated with powdered sugar and corn starch

69.119.253.197 (talk) 23:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Unsourced information

A popular camping or backyard tradition in the United States is the toasting or roasting of marshmallows over a campfire or other source of an open flame. - This assertion is ridiculous and must be sourced or I will remove it very soon. I am genuinely disturbed by the continual appearance of unsourced information on Wikipedia, and feel that all pages must immediately be pared down to sourced information alone. Otherwise, how are we supposed to believe these marshmallow LIES? There is simply no reliable sourcing presented to back up this far-fetched marshmallow-related claim...as with so many other statements on Wikipedia - which should also be removed unless properly verified by the end of the month. The Encyclopedia Britannica would never allow marshmallows to be slandered like this. Imagine if this appeared in a print edition of Wikipedia, and a poor child in Somalia, having no other information on marshmallows, were to read this unsourced absurdity? Please remove this crap now. NBSTVM 00:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

IT HAS ALREADY BEEN ONE MINUTE SINCE I INSERTED THE FACT TAG. THIS GOES TO SHOW THAT THE INFORMATION IS FALSE AND SHOULD BE REMOVED. OMG OMG OMG NBSTVM 00:03, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Huh? Surely there are better places to raise a complaint than here, and over this. Kroyw 00:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

You are contributing to the destruction of Wikipedia by allowing unsourced information to be placed in the encyclopedia. Already, hundreds of children have been exposed to this article and learned UNVERIFIED information about marshmallows - a food they eat every day. What if a child were to die in a fire while attempting to "toast" a marshmallow on the advice of this article? You are wildly irresponsible, and would never be allowed near Encyclopedia Britannica. You have removed a tag requesting sourcing for NO REASON. I demand that this information be sourced or removed. I am initiating a MARSHMALLOW WATCH starting now. So far it has been ONE WHOLE DAY since sourcing was requested...and unsurprisingly, no sourcing has been given. NBSTVM 00:10, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I have left a message on your talk page relating to this matter. NBSTVM 00:17, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I am reverting your edit. Please review WP:POINT before repeating it. --Icarus ^(Hi!) 04:39, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I have reviewed WP:Point and believe that you are referring to the clause establishing that {{fact}} tags are to be used in situations where the content is likely to be challenged. I feel that this content is likely to be challenged, and indeed have a number of questions about it myself. The practice of roasting marshmallows is virtually obsolete, and the dangers involved are obvious, much like those of burning plastic. Virtually no scouting or camping organizations participate in this sort of activity anymore, although a few rogue individuals may choose to do so on their own. I agree that the word "tradition" in the sentence in question is appropriate, since the activity has taken place in the past, but I do not agree with the article's implication that its popularity is ongoing, especially coupled with the complete silence on the dangers of marshmallow roasting. Some of my comments about EB were over the top, but I was giving vent to long-held feelings that Wikipedia is irresponsible, and that, seeing as one of its target audiences is underprivileged children (cf. the stated priorities of Jimmy Wales), Wikipedia should be more careful in publicizing dangerous activities which are not even particularly common. Marshmallow roasting is a dying and dangerous "tradition", and the article should source any claims about its currency, safety, popularity, or benefits. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I'm sorry if I lost my temper. NBSTVM 23:15, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

You should be sorry for creating the disruption. If this is some weak attempt at humor it wasn't funny the first time. Let it rest, NBSTVM. Kroyw 18:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

In a concession to the obstinacy of certain people here, I have refrained from demanding a fact check, and have edited the entry to a compromise version. NBSTVM 19:38, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I find the amount of detail in the vegetarian section of the article absolutely unacceptable. It seams that the article is more dedicated to the topic of vegetarian's relation to marshmallows rather than the marshmallows them selfs. I mean, good god, this isn't vegepedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.216.89 (talk) 01:08, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

breakfast cerial

What do they call the little marshmallows that they put in lucky charms and other breakfast cerials? I think this information should be added to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.104.4.252 (talk) 03:31, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

The marshmallow history

Everyone should know where they come from, and that they were invented by the Egyptians!! why would something like that be removed, repeatedly!!??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.30.19.81 (talk) 21:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Vegetarians and Gelatine

"Vegetarians" don't eat gelatine, it's made from dead animal, a Semi-vegetarian might. See: http://www.kurma.net/faq/ask30.htmlOosh (talk) 09:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Award-winning book

Marshmallow by Clare Turlay Newberry (Harper) 1943, caldecott honor
~ender 2008-11-18 2:32:AM MST —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.240.12.80 (talk)

Pre-softened?

Is it really necessary to say PRE-softened? It's just another abuse of that prefix in contemporary (American?) English. "Softened" is a past participle that indicates that something has been done before something else. To say that the gelatin is softened in water means that it has been softened before being added to the mixture. It would be rather difficult to soften it in water after it's been added! Caeruleancentaur (talk) 16:22, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Quite right, I have changed it, next time just be bold :) StealthFox 21:15, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Are they bad for animals?

I was wondering if feeding marshmallow to animals is bad for them? Im wondering because when people have marshmallow guns and shoot them out side I was wondering if the animals that comeby and eat them would get poisoned like dogs when they eat chocolate.sorry im not logged in but my computers internet is really slow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.82.158.206 (talk) 22:31, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Chocolate is only dangerous to animals because of the theobromine content of cocoa products (see Chocolate#Toxicity_in_animals). So I imagine unless its chocolate marshmallows, it's not an issue StealthFox 00:48, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

SI/Imperial

Should the units used to describe the mass of mashmallow consumed yearly in the US not be quoted first in metric and then in imperial, due to the difference is values of units of the same name in different countries? Colostomyexplosion (talk) 15:09, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

The source cited uses avoirdupois units so while I have no love for them over SI, I believe that's what the primary unit used in the article, with a suitable SI conversion for the more enlightened. :p If you're worried about people mistaking it for troy pounds we can turn on links in the tempalted and that'll send them off to the correct unit article. Oosh (talk) 22:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Roasting Marshmallows

Roasting the marshmallows IS NOT a tradition of the western world because in Italy, France, Netherlands, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Greenland, Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Austria, Switzerland, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Slovenia, Belgium, Luxembourg, Andorra, San Marino, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Kosovo, Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Malta, Faroe Islands, Greece, Cyprus, Monaco, Georgia, Armenia, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Nagorno-Karabakh, Nakhchivan, Chechnya, Turkey and so on IT IS NOT a local tradition and so I modified Western World in North America --Francesco —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.14.79.137 (talk) 22:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough. The reason it was changed to "western world" was because the list had grown to "United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK and Mexico." Not all of these are in North America, so that isn't a good alternative, either. I'm going to go change it to "North America and the English-speaking world" because it seems like that's the best way to cover all of the bases. --Icarus ^(Hi!) 04:30, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Proper English

The article should at least mention that marshmellows are spelt with an e in the UK.Daleks Rule (talk) 20:44, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

That's odd, I always thought it was the opposite. Indeed, I once got lashed out by a Brit online for spelling it "mellow". 98.220.223.197 (talk) 03:34, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

The only people that spell 'marshmallow' with an 'e' are those that cannot spell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.222.220.246 (talk) 21:37, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Agreed - according to the Oxford English Dictionary "marshmellow" is not a word in UK English.VeritasCurat (talk) 16:59, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

What's the relevance of grey whales?

"According to the National Confectioners Association, Americans spend more than $125 million annually for upwards of 90 million pounds of marshmallow, a mass equivalent to 1,286 gray whales."

I'm not sure I can visualise this equivalency. How much is that in football courts? 84.112.202.36 (talk) 00:16, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Generally, football fields are used for measuring length or area, not mass. I suppose that you could talk about the mass of the top six inches of a football field, but I don't see much point in that. - AlanUS (talk) 22:33, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Hey hey! Cereal anyone?

Should we add in the fact that a lot of cereals like Count Choculah and Lucky Charms use DE-hydrated marshmallows in their cereals? 173.33.32.4 (talk) 08:31, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Removed claim that Doumak started his company because of patent

I've removed the claim that Doumak started a company on the strength of his patent on the extrusion process. According to the Doumak corporate website, the company was started in 1921 using the starch mogul process (they call it "cast mold marshmallows"). Further, the source that had been cited to support the claim, well, didn't.

Also, if anyone has information about precisely which patent that was, I'd be interested. I think it might be US 2,847,311 (Confection and Process For Producing the Same), but I'm not sure, as that's dated 12 Aug 1958, and the dates I've seen cited tend to be ~10 yrs earlier. Other funny thing is that 2,847,311 was assigned to National Dairy Products Corporation as far as I can tell; not sure what to make of that... Mount Flatten (talk) 10:26, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Brands

This sentence is unclear: "Most of the current brands of commercially available marshmallows in the United States are made and copacked by Kraft Foods and Doumak, Inc, under such names as Jet-Puffed, Campfire, Kidd and numerous 'private label' store brands." Are the "private label" store brands made and copacked by Kraft and Doumak or not? - AlanUS (talk) 22:30, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

"Roasted" versus "toasted" marshmallow

I undid a recent change in the article from "toasted" to "roasted" marshmallows, and left it at "toasted marshmallows." In the US at least I have always heard "toasted," since it is exposed for a short while to very high radiant heat, and heated directly, perhaps over a campfire, like toasting bread, while roasting is typically at a much lower temp for a much longer time. Roasting can be either direct heat (coals or fire) or indirect heat in an oven. Marshmallows in an oven at 325 degrees F, like roasting beef, would melt without getting the desired dark char. Roasting near a flame or coals would be equivalent to toasting, I suppose. Google book search shows "toasted marshmallow" with 3030 results and "roasted marshmallow" with only 1050 results, so from reliable sources (as opposed to a simploe Google hits tally, "toasted" better satisfies WP:COMMON. Even Google hits favor "Toasted:" 500,000 hits versus 61,000 for "roasted." If this is one of those US versus UK usage" issues, then we should look back to the first edit which selected one version of English or the other and keep the article to that style per WP:ENGVAR, since the confection does not seem particularly closely related to either country. Edison (talk) 21:04, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Six years later a reply: it is 'toasted' in Britain too. It is done over a campfire or the embers of a barbecue. I have never heard "roasted". (Who would roast a marshmallow? It wouldn't survive.) Hogweard (talk) 12:34, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

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Section: Sucrose

Deleted this: "The crystallization process is explained by Le Châtelier's principle. It states that a system shifted away from equilibrium acts to restore balance by reacting in opposition to the shift. So, an increase in temperature causes the system to decrease in energy to bring the temperature down. The energy is then absorbed as the chemical bonds from the sucrose break down. This cools the system down, so more sucrose molecules break apart, and dissolve in the solution.

When the solution cools down, we see sugar crystals form. This is also explained by Le Châtelier's principle that says a decrease in temperature causes a system to generate energy to bring the temperature up. Since the formation of chemical bonds always releases energy, more sucrose molecules will join crystals already forming to increase the temperature. This explains why crystallization occurs when the temperature decreases. In marshmallow processing, these are the steps that occur as the sugar syrup solution is being heated and cooled." reason: really bad garbled up explanation of something so simple as melting<->crystallization or solid<->liquid phase change. the details belong to the article about crystallization anyway. 80.99.38.199 (talk) 20:16, 17 January 2018 (UTC).

since the deletion was reverted (twice) to avoid edit warring i leave it to the more experienced editors. still i wish you think about my proposal to remove that paragraph (its actually two paragraphs). 80.99.38.199 (talk) 22:26, 17 January 2018 (UTC).

corn syrup section

"Corn syrup is flavorless and cheap to produce which is why candy companies love using this product." i contest the statement of "flavorless" - i'd bet it is sweet and let me know if sweet is not counted as a flavor. perhaps the idea was to say it has a neutral/blank sweet taste. well, like sugar? also though i got no sympathy for candy companies, the later half of the sentence probably could and should be formed more neutrally. like, "corn syrup has a neutral sweet taste and is unexpensive, which is why it is favored by candy companies." 80.99.38.199 (talk) 20:32, 17 January 2018 (UTC). also, while seems quite common sense, the widespread use or favored use of corn syrup by candy makers could be confirmed by a source, or else it sounds too much like an opinion - i am inclined to take it as a valid statement, but a source would deinitely help.80.99.38.199 (talk) 22:00, 17 January 2018 (UTC).

section: SUCROSE STILL BLOWS!

as tried to draw attention to it before, the 'Section: Sucrose' suffers mightily from overblown and poorly phrased content. i found a well formed statement to decribe it: "I think you could say enough of that with 90% fewer words. Please review WP:NOTEVERYTHING, WP:NOTTEXTBOOK, WP:NOTNEWS, and WP:CRYSTAL for perspective, then provide a shorter draft using systematic review articles". (the exact wording comes from peanut butter talk page and it describes very well what is the problem with including excess information and beyond being excessive what is wrong with the writing style as well.)

the problematic section is:"Sucrose is another ingredient utilized in most aerated confections. It is a disaccharide that consists of one glucose and fructose molecule. This sugar provides sweetness and bulk to the marshmallow, while simultaneously setting the foam to a firm consistency as it cools.[15] Sucrose, and sugars in general, impair the ability of a foam to form, but improve foam stability. Therefore, sucrose is used in conjunction with a protein like gelatin. The protein can adsorb, unfold, and form a stable network, while the sugar can increase the viscosity.[16] Liquid drainage of the continuous phase must be minimized as well. Thick liquids drain more slowly than thin ones, and so increasing the viscosity of the continuous phase will reduce drainage. A high viscosity is essential if a stable foam is to be produced. Therefore, sucrose is a main component of marshmallow. But sucrose is seldom used on its own, because of its tendency to crystallize.

The crystallization process is explained by Le Châtelier's principle. It states that a system shifted away from equilibrium acts to restore balance by reacting in opposition to the shift. So, an increase in temperature causes the system to decrease in energy to bring the temperature down. The energy is then absorbed as the chemical bonds from the sucrose break down. This cools the system down, so more sucrose molecules break apart, and dissolve in the solution.

When the solution cools down, we see sugar crystals form. This is also explained by Le Châtelier's principle that says a decrease in temperature causes a system to generate energy to bring the temperature up. Since the formation of chemical bonds always releases energy, more sucrose molecules will join crystals already forming to increase the temperature. This explains why crystallization occurs when the temperature decreases.[13] In marshmallow processing, these are the steps that occur as the sugar syrup solution is being heated and cooled."

And it should be shortened like this:"Sucrose is another ingredient utilized in most aerated confections. It is a disaccharide that consists of one glucose and fructose molecule. This sugar provides sweetness and bulk to the marshmallow, while simultaneously setting the foam to a firm consistency as it cools.[15] Sucrose, and sugars in general, impair the ability of a foam to form, but improve foam stability. Therefore, sucrose is used in conjunction with a protein like gelatin. The protein can adsorb, unfold, and form a stable network, while the sugar can increase the viscosity.[16] Liquid drainage of the continuous phase must be minimized as well. Thick liquids drain more slowly than thin ones, and so increasing the viscosity of the continuous phase will reduce drainage. A high viscosity is essential if a stable foam is to be produced. Therefore, sucrose is a main component of marshmallow. But sucrose is seldom used on its own, because of its tendency to crystallize."

My suggestion is to delete the last 2 paragraphs and keep the first paragraph. 80.99.38.199 (talk) 14:27, 4 February 2018 (UTC).

seems to have reached agreement on deletion of overblown excessive paragraphs detailed above

since 2 months have passed and no objections have been raised, i am being bold and go on with it. reasons explained in details above. 80.99.38.199 (talk) 20:06, 14 April 2018 (UTC).

ok, so i did. i am still confused how "edit summary" text goes sometimes directly to appear as title of the edited section, and sometimes does not, but ok, i can accept that. hope that this time the deletion will be either accepted or if not someone actually takes time to argue about it instead of (brainlessly) reverting. 80.99.38.199 (talk) 20:16, 14 April 2018 (UTC).

Styrofoam?

Is the caption on the infobox image supposed to be "Styrofoam"? Are there marshmallow shape names I haven't heard of? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chlod (talk • contribs) 03:56, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Just a vandalized entry, it's been reverted. noq (talk) 14:40, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2020

The DOI cited in the reference at the end of this section is incorrect; it should be

10.1021/cen-v084n016.p041

instead of 10.1021/cen-v084n011.p041

(vol. 84 no.16, not no. 11).

Thanks! southcutt (talk) 23:05, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:42, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 September 2021

I would like to add Europa as part of the world where roasting or toasting of marshmallows over a campfire is very popular. Famrdevriesfrance (talk) 13:46, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:53, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

I believe they were referring to the videogame Destiny 2, which has an emote where the player roasts a marshmallow over a campfire (and Europa as a destination). I'm not sure if your team would consider a lil nod to it appropriate, but the game does have a wiki page that could be linked for context, for what it's worth. NeonBlackHole (talk) 21:18, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 August 2023

Rochester, New York’s High Falls district was a manufacturing center in the early 1800s, harnessing the Genesee River to power mills along the gorge. In 1895, Joseph B. Demerath established the Rochester Marshmallow Company, becoming the first confectioner in America to manufacture and distribute commercial marshmallows. 2603:7081:1606:CB7E:D5AF:4C3:9DD4:F80C (talk) 01:37, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —⁠PlanetJuice (talk • contribs) 01:47, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2023

Please add an image of a homemade marshmallow (such as 2,832 × 4,256 pixels, file size: 4.07 MB, MIME type: image/jpeg) underneath the paragraph detailing the homemade marshmallow making process in the manufacturing section. Image caption could state "an example of a typical homemade batch of marshmallows". RattusMori (talk) 23:14, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

@RattusMori: does such an image exist on Wikimedia Commons? Elli (talk | contribs) 00:14, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

yes, Handmade Marshmallows by FatMatt (4774326832).jpg RattusMori (talk) 00:22, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for finding that, User:RattusMori! DMacks (talk) 03:13, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

No problem! Thanks for adding it RattusMori (talk) 03:21, 20 October 2023 (UTC)