Talk:George Pell

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Summary of this archbishops Paige[edit]

The summary of this archbishops Paige is seriously lacking. He has been accused of child sex abuse and went through a criminal trial. He’s been accused by more than one person. And he’s also been accused of covering up for other priest committing child sex abuse. This is not mentioned at all. I can’t lie, it makes me suspicious that someone might be removing edits to include this information and then locking the page to prevent it from being done now. There’s pending edits that mention his child sex abuse but how do we get those confirmed? Matthewi (talk) 6:25, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

The points you are trying to make here appear to be based entirely on your intuition and your impression of how Wikipedia operates. Wikipedia has some very important guidelines that are relevant here, but you haven’t mentioned them, so we assume you haven’t taken them into account. If you wish to make your points in a persuasive manner you should study WP:PERPETRATOR, WP:NPOV, WP:Verify and WP:Notability (people) very closely, and explain how the missing information is consistent with these guidelines. Dolphin (t) 09:36, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dolphin51 Having read the policies you link to I see no relevancy to the issue of writing an appropriate lead section (assuming @User:Mathewi reference to "summary"), MOS:LEADBIO stipulates that relevant controversies should not be suppressed and that a lead must accurately reflect the content of article in its entirety. Given the content of this article, a neutral, evenly weighted lead section should reduce focus on his career and include substantial details of accusations, response, judgements and cultural legacy. James Bateaux (talk) 13:10, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
James Bateaux Thanks for your comments. You are at a disadvantage arguing in the abstract. I suggest you use your sandbox or this Talk page to show all interested Users what you have in mind for the lead of this article - write a draft of a revised lead and include the substantial details of accusations, response, judgements and cultural legacy. If you use your sandbox you can then use this Talk page to alert interested Users and invite their comments. If your draft wins the approval of interested Users it can be pasted into the article without amendment; if Users make comments and suggestions you can proceed as you wish. Dolphin (t) 06:32, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]