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Query[edit]

Eclecticology, wouldn't it make sense to base the list on the year for which the award was given rather than the year on which it was given. Jay 14:11, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. That also follows the official information documented in the AMPAS database and webpages (sources). I began working on making the changes; the earliest (20s) and most recent decades (some of 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s) have been corrected; others still need verification and corrections made (see editorial interpolated notes in preview mode in article). --NYScholar (talk) 21:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup[edit]

The years throughout this list and many of the citations (the reasons for the awards) are not precisely those given in the source(s): the official Academy Award Database and website. This list needs some extensive cleanup. I added links to the sources for verifying this list. The current phrases in quotation marks need checking throughout; some were quotations, some not; all need to be exact quotations; there was plagiarism in this list; see WP:Plagiarism and need not to violate WP:V and WP:CITE. Thanks. --NYScholar (talk) 02:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For most of the 1980s [(espec. 1983 and above, as well as some after 1983)], there remain many errors that still will need correction. Each entry needs verification and checking for accuracy of presentation in the Official Academy Award Database; I've added the sources, references, and some source citations. I leave it to others to continue correcting the errors throughout this list. Thanks. --NYScholar (talk) 08:37, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Came back to correct all but the ones mentioned below and in the editorial interpolations in the article (preview mode). --NYScholar (talk) 00:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Update: The awards in the 1930s and 1940s without award ceremonies in parentheses all need cleanup: checking, verification, and corrections via the AMPAS Awards Database. --NYScholar (talk) 00:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Update 2: 1940-1944 particularly needs clean up to be consistent with the Awards Database information as used throughout the rest of this article now. --NYScholar (talk) 02:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Update 3: completed. See editing history. --NYScholar (talk) 19:34, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Academy Award for Lifetime Achievement[edit]

    Everyone knows there is an Academy "Award for Lifetime Achievement", and almost no one knows there is an "Academy Honorary Award". The title "Academy Honorary Award" on the accompanying article may be appropriate (since its scope broader than the lifetime achievement awards), but it is not about the bylaws of the Academy, and the official language belongs in the article text only in a secondary role. The public consciousness of the lifetime achievement awards is at least as important as what the trustees of the academy say, especially since they seem to put such a low priority on keeping the presenters who say "lifetime achievement" from ever being in a position to ever do so again!
    It is outrageous that there is -- probably as a result of superstitious respect for the official pronouncements of the organization -- no mention of even the phrase "lifetime achievement" except in 2 footnotes, even tho the redirects such as "Oscar for lifetime achievement" and piped links such as "Academy Award for Lifetime Achievement" (in e.g. Cary Grant#Hollywood stardom) to the accompanying article require mention, respectively, in the lead 'graph and in the 1st graph of the Rdr-target section.
    For similar reasons, there probably should be a mechanism -- perhaps a table instead of a linear list -- for users to easily scan thru just the lifetime awards: offhand, i picture rows for years, and the first column or block of columns having LTA awards and one or more further columns, of which the last would be "Other".
--Jerzy•t 20:00, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On Receiving[edit]

I was never prodigious at spelling, but am I correct in thinking that the word is "recipient," rather than "receipient?" --15lsoucy salve.opus.nomen 03:28, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a particular reason most of the information under the 1940s and 1950s is not in a table?[edit]

Sorry, new to this topic. Is it okay if I fix it? Dror Snir (talk) 07:15, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please feel free to be WP:BOLD and put those entries into a table. One suggestion - and this is based on the fact that some of these table can be tricky to work with - you might want to work on them in a sandbox until you are happy with the finished product. On the other hand if you have worked with them a bunch then go ahead and have at it and thanks for you efforts. MarnetteD | Talk 14:13, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie Chaplin or Charles Chaplin?[edit]

I changed the name to Charlie Chaplin under WP:OFFICIALNAMES and WP:COMMONAMES. An editor named MarnetteD seems to believe that since the official inscription on the statuette read Charles that we should use the official name, despite Wikipedia policy stating otherwise. In the video clip of him winning the Award the presenter repeatedly refers to him as Charlie, except when quoting the inscription verbatim, and the title of the video (from AMPAS’ official YouTube channel), clearly states: “CHARLIE Chaplin receiving an Honorary Oscar®”. Marnette’s insistence on using Charles strikes me as being more of a sticklerish thing than anything else, but I’d like to build a consensus here. 67.234.122.161 (talk) 01:26, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And, alas, Charlie Chaplin was only made a Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire (K.B.E.) by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II in 1975, when he was 85 years old. He thus became Sir Charles Chaplin. To style him thus before his knighthood in 1975 is incorrect.

I completely agree with this, although WP:STAGENAME also somewhat applies here as well (that policy is more for article titles). WP:STAGENAME states "The name used most often to refer to a person in reliable sources is generally the one that should be used as the article title, even if it is not their "real" name, and even if it appears to pass judgement on the person (as with Alfred the Great)." At the very least, his name should be 'Charles "Charlie" Chaplin', but "Charlie Chaplin" is probably best. LoremIpsumDolorSitAsmet (talk) 20:44, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually we go with how it is spelled as done as the reference. The naming convention for the article is different for that used with sourced material. You night also wish to check the credits of his films. He always credits the "Little Tramp" as Charlie but all other credits be it director, writer, composer etc he uses his birth name of Charles. Charles is also the name used on the award and at the award presentation. MarnetteD | Talk 16:19, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of people know him as Charlie Chaplin and I am unaware of anybody calling him Chuck or Chucky; and don't complain, I was just making an observation for God's sake. Nosehair2200 (talk) 00:09, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Statuette[edit]

For the awards that indicate "Statuette", is that the same as the standard Oscar award item? If so, maybe mention that in the article if it isn't already. Two cents, etc. 72.73.32.204 (talk) 01:45, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Geena Davis[edit]

Since this looks like there will be some confusion over this Geena Davis is being presented with the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award. That is different from the honorary award that this article is about. MarnetteD|Talk 03:03, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Forbidden games[edit]

this movie appears as honorary for 1952, but i could not find any source supporting this.

the movie _did_ win "foreign picture" that year, but those are two different awards. will not remove the claim, but adding {{Citation needed}}. i doubt very much this can be sourced. peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 23:53, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your post. I know this is a bit tricky. See the first paragraph here Academy Award for Best International Feature Film#History where it points out that "eight foreign language films received Special or Honorary Awards" including Forbidden Games. The Best Foreign Language Film award (now known as the Academy Award for Best International Feature Film) was not created until 1956. Thus FG (and the other seven films) are properly listed in this article. Thanks again for your observation. MarnetteD|Talk 02:12, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I saw this movie appear in "best foreign" category, and was not aware of this kink. Interestingly, it is absent from the main authoritative source cited (1st ref in article). Peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 17:21, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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