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Lies from fanboys[edit]

I´m removing this part:

The King of Fighters introduced the 3-on-3 team battle system to the fighting game genre along with other sub-systems, such as "attack deflector" (dodging) and "emergency escape" (rolling), running, short jumps, "super desperation moves", autoguarding attacks, and multiple control formats. Many subsequent fighting games adapted these features and helped establish The King of Fighters as one of the most recognized fighting game series of all time.

Explanation: The King of Fighter did not introduce those features.

3 on 3: Games such as Fatal Fury and Street Fighter already allowed the use of more than one character in team battles, just check the snes ports.

Attack deflector: Art of Fighting 1 and Fatal Fury 2 already had it.

Emergency escape: Vega in Street Fighter 2 had it. One feature does not have to be shared by all characters. AOF1 already had desperation moves, but only 2 fighters could perform it. Sf2 had double jump, but only for Vega and Chun-Li.

running: AOF1 and 2 had it. Samurai Shodown 1 and 2 also had it.

short jumps: Play Fatal Fury 3.

MCF: I don´t know what does that mean: Is it related to the advanced and extra from KOF 97? Last Blade 1 had it. Also, Super Street Turbo used a similar system, in which the person could choose to play by the rules used in the previous version.

SDMs: Fatal Fury 3 and Real Bout 1 had them.

autoguard: AOF had it.

I renamed this section, because you sound like a KOF hater. Maybe you're Badmash from GameFAQs or something 24.14.120.92 03:15, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why? I simply said those were lies. What does it have to do with being a hater of the series? Besides, as i stated (and you removed) the user Moryasmug edited my text without giving any explanation. It´s not my fault that the information you guys posted was wrong. Live with it.

Then stop acting like such a hater. 24.14.120.92 06:05, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by that? What did I do that sounded (to you) as a Kof hater?


I just wanted to make a note about clarity. I'm sure this is just an oversight, but in the main article it states "The King of Fighters 2000 was released on July 26, 2000, with the addition of several new character that would only work as Strikers.[7]". The new characters (Vanessa, Ramon, Lin, Seth, Hinako) were not limited to being strikers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.204.237.23 (talk) 07:43, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

KoF '94 ports?[edit]

Was King of Fighters '94 really released on the Saturn or Playstation? I can't find any information on the game or any copies on either format. (Galvy 14:04, 2 March 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Nope. KoF '95 was the first one ported to the Saturn & Playstation. The S 02:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


New info: A new KOF for mobile phones appears to be based (judging by the pictures) on Kof94.

This paragraph is confusing:

The game was remade in 2004 for the PS2 as The King of Fighters '94 Re-Bout in Japan; however, it had problems getting released it in the US. According to Ben Herman, the president of SNK Playmore USA, bug fixing would have taken too long, resulting in missing the holiday season [1]. The game was then announced to be released on the Xbox; however, the game was ultimately cancelled in March 2006 (the month of it's scheduled release). No announcements were ever made as to why the Xbox version was cancelled. It would have had completely new features like online play, team edit, a playable Rugal Bernstein, and the addition of Saisyu Kusanagi.

Was it that the PS2 version was denied due to price issue while the X-Box version was cancelled because of the bugs in the online component, according to Ben Herman?

I think this passage needs to be clean, sound confusing. Nauto 20:01, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

By the beart of Zeus[edit]

Can someone fill in the overall description of each plot arc, in the space before the individual games are listed? Also, I'm not sure offhand what all of the ports are like. It's probably a good idea to list what home systems each game is available for, and what significant differences there are from the original version. Kyo is the most people favourite character from KOF.

By the beart of Zeus, why is the plot summary so LONG? It even appears to have short stories placed in a few spots... I think a little culling is in order. I appreciate the filling in of the plot arc, but this is a bit too much...

buliding off zeus... Will someone PLEASE seperate kof into it's apropriate enumaration (94, 95, 96, 97 etc). It will help reduce the clutter, and seriously, each game is different from the last, especially in the recent ones.

Let's vote to achieve consensus on the validity of the hizokus section, I think it's just speculative and stupidly fanboyish garbage that doesn't belong anywhere in this article, perhaps in it's own article but not here.

It's not speculative, it's official. SNK talk about it on their KoF 10 year site! It's the longest running storyline in KoF. By your reasoning we should take away anything to do with storylines altogether. Sign your messages!!! Bowen 14:33, 11 January 2006 (UTC) http://www.snkplaymore.jp/official/kof2003/english/story/t-story_hero.html <- Main character story talks of Flying Brigands, most people don't know what fuck that is. SNK say it's important so stop taking it out PabloG you cunt![reply]

Either you make a new article or you leave it in! Bowen 05:33, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is a Lin article now. It'd probally be best to add it to there if you still want it on Wikipedia. Kid Drac 21:00, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Beart? Is that a pun on Mignon? The S 19:20, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why is there two?[edit]

Why is there two articles on the KOF series (King of Fighters (series) and King of Fighters series)? Shouldn't they be merged? ---> Sagitario

My word. I never noticed that... Yes, they should be. -ZeroTalk 05:58, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Individual Game Articles[edit]

I strongly believe each KOF game (at least from the main series) should have it's own article. Has anyone ever argued against the idea, or is it just a matter of no one creating them? Were they ever in existence and then deleted? --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 11:46, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the main article gives an explanatory thesis regarding the games. If we made seperate articles, we'd have to remove large chunks of this article, and each individual article might end up as stubs.
However, I made the seperate Tekken articles a while ago, and they turned out quite well and were very informative. I'll do some research, and determine if each article warrents enough information; if so, I'll begin construction. -ZeroTalk 16:52, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In theory, we could at least devote articles to the "story arcs" which are laid out here (94-97, 99-01, etc) but in my opinion each game has enough differences from the others to fill out eleven (so far) individual entries. --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 07:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How did your research end up? There'd be plenty of information for the infoboxes, each article could have its own shot of the title screen, etc… I'm not saying I'd die to have those articles but I'd welcome the opportunity to contribute to them… elias.hc 18:36, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh I looked into it. I don't believe it to be a worthy endeavor. I dismissed this earlier as I had begun preparing them in my sandbox, but looked at our main article here and other articles about the net. I came to the conclusion that the games are similar extentions of each other and the main article works quite well. If a overwhelming community concensus queries for it, I'll go ahead and make them, but I doubt that.-ZeroTalk 17:52, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah right... that's like saying Tekken 4 and Tekken 5 are similar. Do ACTUAL research next time. 24.14.120.92 06:23, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Has Geese Flown the Coop?[edit]

I just revised the continuity section and came across this: "Sometimes, however, even major events fail to impact other series. For instance, although recent Fatal Fury games depend on Geese Howard having been dead for years, he lives on in the most recent KOF installments." Other than a tweak, I left this statement alone for now. However, it's my understanding that though Geese made an appearance in KOF '96, he certainly hasn't appeared in "the most recent KOF installments." In fact, if KOF: Another Day has any bearing upon KOF's plot, Geese indeed has been dead for awhile now. I'd say that if Geese isn't clearly still alive in KOF (and I've been known to miss the obvious, so I'm bringing this before all of you to verify), this example for a big event making no impact in any other relevant series needs to be changed. RemiCogan 06:22, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He is alive and well. Fatal Fury and King of Fighters are not the same series, but occur in different continuitys, with similar events. Geese's status is now as behind-the-secenes mobster, still attempting to take over Southtown. He is the one who commands the Outlaw Team in KOF 2003. -ZeroTalk 06:31, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If Geese isn't dead in KoF, then how did Terry end up adopting Rock? The S 02:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In Fatal Fury universe, Terry adopted Rock since the ending of FF3 (but Geese was dead in RB1).--58.9.111.230 15:25, 28 July 2006 (UTC) The point I tried to say is Geese abandoned Marie and Rock in the first place (just like Geese's father done to Geese).--Freak on Board 15:40, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
They don't know he's alive in KOF. The only character that knows Geese is alive is Billy, Gato, and Yamazaki. Rock is already with Terry by KOF2001. Besides, how do we really know Geese is dead in FF series? I mean he comes back more often that cockroaches lol. 24.14.120.92 06:28, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In 2003, Terry's winquote againts Billy is "Tell your boss: after KOF, I'm coming after him!". About Rock stayed with Terry in 2001, Terry is 24 years old in that games, and in FF3 he's 23 (the game took place in the early of 95). [1] [2]
Regarding Geese's death, MOTW's story stated that. [3] [4] --Freak on Board 02:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Region 2 and English[edit]

In the 'Spinoffs' section, regarding the KOF: Another Day DVD, this line pops up: "The DVD is notable in that it contains an English subtitle track, as well as an English dub audio track for all four episodes, in spite of only being coded for playback in Region 2 players." However, the UK is in region 2 and most UK DVD players can happily accept the disc (provided the TV can accept an NTSC picture). Perhaps this should be reworded?

Fair enough. I'll touch it up. --MoriyaMug 18:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

External Links[edit]

The external links section definitely needs cleaning up, there are a lot of pointless, biased fansite links there. The only ones that are really necessary are the official website and a link to information about the series on a major gaming website such as IGN or Gamespot. The links to sites about individual games are definitely unnecessary as those can be linked to from the games' individual articles, external links on this article should be strictly about the series as a whole only. Timkovski 18:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mr.Karate[edit]

Mr.Karate appeared on KoF 96's GB version,don't remove him from template! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by KnighTeen87 (talk • contribs) 21:27, 17 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Clean up ideas[edit]

Okay, I've been meaning to take a look at this series' article and how to clean it up. I've got a few ideas, and I'm throwing it out to the community here to see what you all think of the ideas.

  • The first thing that comes to mind is the lengthy Games section. While the games are important to the KoF series, the list is excessively long and clutters up most of the page. Looking at Final Fantasy, it's countless games and spinoffs are documented in a separate List of Final Fantasy games article. I am thinking of creating a separate List of King of Fighters games article with the contents of the current "Games" section (with some major clean-up, of course).
  • The second idea would be to kill the trivia section, per the guideline WP:TRIVIA. Two of the trivia bits are uncited fancruft; another is cited but is still cruft, and the last point can be integrated into the article itself.
  • Third, per the guidelines at WP:CVG there needs to be more information about the history of how the series was created and the general impact the series has had; in other words, clarify why the series is notable. And it can't be just "I'm a member of an SNK forum which has X number of members; that's the kind of impact it has"; any claims must be verifiable and come from reliable sources - in other words, no fan forums.

So, does anyone else have any input on these plans? Or does anyone have any other ideas to help improve this article? NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 22:41, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Elisabeth & Rugal[edit]

I have moved their articles to Elisabeth (King of Fighters) and Rugal as no surnames are given in the games only in additional sources. Surnames are still given in first sentence of the article. Please do not change back as per Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-12-21_Street_Fighter_character_articles and Talk:E. Honda. Thank you. Mr.bonus 17:45, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Page name[edit]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED -- as there was a consensus for the move per discussion below. --Philip Baird Shearer 14:36, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's pretty clear that the series is known as The King of Fighters and feel that it should be moved to such a page. The logo has the "The", every game in the series has the "The", and the lead includes the "The". The current location is as wrong as Clockwork Orange or Jerk would be. This survey also affects other articles such as List of King of Fighters games. I don't think there would be much disagreement here, but I don't fill completely confident with requesting a "uncontroversial" move.--SeizureDog 12:51, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Add  # '''Support'''  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~. Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.

Move article to The King of Fighters[edit]

  1. Support per comments above.--SeizureDog 12:51, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (definite and indefinite articles at beginning of name)#When definite and indefinite articles should be used. This is a title of a work and the logo shows that it's a part of the title. --Kusunose 04:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Suppport - Of the 1.4 million Ghits for "King of Fighters", 1.1 million contain the whole phrase "The King of Fighters". WP:NCD seems to support nominator per the above comment. -- Exitmoose 23:39, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support for this article, but oppose for disambiguating notes on character articles. Brevity is important there and the parenthetical notes are for Wikipedia's purposes only, so just as United States is often abbreviated to US, no reason not to abbreviate them as well. SnowFire 22:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep article at King of Fighters[edit]

  1. Oppose, per WP:NC, which states that we do not use usually put articles at the beginning of titles other than in a few exceptional cases. Chris cheese whine 02:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, and one of those cases is when the article is a part of the name itself. A cursory glance at King of Fighters will reveal that this is the case. -- Exitmoose 01:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Oppose, it's KOF not TKOF. 70.55.87.154 02:21, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

SeizureDog I am not going to move them you can do it. If there are any which you can not move for technical reasons then please leave a message on my Talk page and I'll lend a hand. All so in this case you did not make it very clear that a mass move was intended, so do not be suprised if some of the moves are raise objections --Philip Baird Shearer 14:36, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone copyedit Mai Shiranui?[edit]

I'd like to make her a GA, kthx. --Niemti (talk) 21:05, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Early games released outside Japan[edit]

The article currently states that "The first games of the series were only available in Japan with the exception of The King of Fighters '95 which saw a U.S. release on the PlayStation and a European release on the Sega Saturn in 1996. However, in 1999 when SNK was expanded to North America, the games were also released there." This is incorrect as all KOF games prior to The King of Fighters XI were originally developed for SNK's Neo-Geo system, which includes both the MVS arcade cabinets and AES home console. MVS and AES were both available in countries outside Japan and all Neo-Geo KoF titles were multi-lingual from the get-go, often including Spanish and Portuguese language choices in addition to Japanese and English.

Thus, the above excerpt is erroneous and I shall be removing it. It might very well be that the original Neo-Geo games were not ported to other systems outside Japan before 1999, save for KOF '95, so if someone wants to rephrase the excerpt to reflect this and add it back in, be my guest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.234.180.209 (talk) 20:52, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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