Category talk:Prime ministers

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Naming conventions say this should be at Category:Prime ministers; Category:Prime Ministers is now empty (although I think the cache still thinks Category:Prime Ministers of Fiji is in there...). ugen64 23:28, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Interesting. I note that the Category:Prime ministers contains 18 subcategories which use the term "Prime Ministers" and seven which use "Prime ministers". Also, note that the official title is "Prime Minister". I wonder if we've got this one wrong... Grutness|hello? 04:15, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
It is wrong. The category should be "Prime Minister" because it's a title, and it's invariant. So in fact Category:Prime ministers should be deleted, and subcategories moved/renamed appropriately. Rd232 17:26, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
This is a tough one. The article Prime Minister is capitalised, but the first reference within the article isn't. Then, within the article it switches merrily back and forth. Looking at Prime Minister of Canada, it seems to quite clearly distinguish between using prime minister for general descriptions of the role, and Prime Minister when referring to an individual or when speaking of the actions undertaken by someone fulfilling the role. Later on in the article it drops the baton a couple of time. Talk:Lists of office-holders has more discussions.
It seems to me that the category should remain as 'Prime Ministers'; all the subsidiary categories should be 'Prime Ministers of Foo'; and the main article should be 'prime minister'.
But then again, there is also the category Category:Heads of government by country. Shouldn't all 'Prime Ministers of Foo' categories be subsidiaries of this? Then the category 'Prime Ministers' almost becomes redundant, although it may contain any 'List of Prime Ministers' articles. Noisy | Talk 18:31, Jan 8, 2005 (UTC)
That's a thorny one. Loads of countries have both Prime Ministers and Presidents - in some one is the head of government, in others the other is. I think we still need a specific category for all Prime Ministers. Grutness|hello? 00:15, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)