Talk:Power Man and Iron Fist

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Power Man/Iron Fist or Power Man and Iron Fist? As far as I've ever seen, the book has been called the former everywhere except the cover, which is the only place where I see the word 'and'. Elsewhere, (like the Mile High online catalog) I see the slash version. One, the real article, the other, a redirect, but which is which? Anybody want to check the Statement of Ownership in an issue, for the official word? I have a hunch it's the slash version, but if anybody wants to check, feel free... --Samy Merchi 22:47, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The reason I moved it back isn't because of that - it's because calling it Power Man/Iron Fist means that it's technically a subpage of Power Man called Iron Fist, and, IIRC, subpages in the main articlespace aren't allowed (you may want to check that, oc) . - SoM 22:55, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Does having it as PM/IF actually cause any discrepancies of functionality? In other words, does it matter that Wiki may consider it a subpage? What matters is how it looks like to the end user -- will there be any problems to the end user in portraying it that way? --Samy Merchi 01:18, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether it causes any specific problems, but there is long-standing Wikipedia community consensus on this issue. Articles on Wikipedia often have a less than ideal name; for example, no article title can start with a lowercase letter, even though ideally some would. ike9898 01:40, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

Can you point me to any relevant discussions? I'd appreciate any links. --Samy Merchi 06:37, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Also note: A simple proof that 22/7 exceeds pi among other things. --Samy Merchi 06:07, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Start here. ike9898 15:22, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)

Repetition

Much of the information here, particularly the opening section about Luke Cage's place in the history of black superheroes, seems redundant with what's in Luke Cage, and certainly seems much more televant there.

Additionally, despite a title change, the main character and the numbering remained the same. By way of analogy, there's isn't a separate Green Lantern/Green Arrow entry for the highly celebrated time that Green Lantern had the very same kind of dual title.

It would seem more useful to someone unfamiliar with comics -- the very kind of person who might turn to Wikipedia, that is to say ... maybe someone curious about the character if/when the movie comes out ... to have information about the consecutively numbered series all in one place. We could still do a link to a subhead, i.e., Luke_Cage#Power_Man_and_Iron_Fist. — Tenebrae 03:58, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I think we're dealing with a number of factors which complicate this. First, there are two characters: Luke Cage and Iron Fist. Then there are separate comic books: Hero for Hire, Power Man, Iron Fist, Power Man and Iron Fist, and Heroes for Hire. Lastly, there are two teams/partnerships and partnerships: the original Heroes for Hire and the more recent Heroes for Hire. So how do we divvy up the information? Obviously there needs to be separate Luke Cage and Iron Fist biography pages. They are both important enough characters to warrant that. Also, I think the main information for the Hero for Hire and Power Man comic books should be found with Luke Cage's entry and the Iron Fist comic book should be found with the Iron Fist entry. The difficulty comes in with Power Man #50 where Iron Fist joins Cage and they form Heroes for Hire. As far as the title goes, the cover changes to Power Man and Iron Fist with #50, but the indicia catches up with #67. I don't think that should be a major issue though. The partnership, Heroes for Hire, and the cover both change with #50 so I would suggest making that the point at which it goes from a Luke Cage solo book to a Cage/Iron Fist book. So what to do with PM&IF #50-125 AND the 1998 Heroes for Hire? Here's my suggestion: I agree that there's a parallel with Green Lantern/Green Arrow in that both characters entries should obviously have information about their partnership (the Heroes for Hire business in PM&IF #50-125) and information that they also were in the later Heroes for Hire (in HFH #1-19), but there should also be a separate Heroes for Hire entry dealing with the partnership and the later team. It's because there's not just the issue with where to apportion the original Heroes for Hire partnership between the two characters pages, there's also the issue of where the main 1998 Heroes for Hire team information should reside. I would think that Heroes for Hire should have a separate entry somewhat focusing on the original partnership, but, more importantly, being a place for the main information dealing with the later team.Dancreel 21:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Split

We need a new article covering the new Heroes for Hire. I'd do it, but I have practically no knowledge about the characters.--Gonzalo84 03:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Split I thought about this for a while. This article should remain as short citation solely about the comic book series specifically named Power Man and Iron Fist. A separate Heroes for Hire article should be generated, addressing the history of the team and its eponymous series.

Since the split referendum has been up for over a week now, I think I'll get started on this. --El benito 02:57, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

THere already is a separate Heroes for Hire page. Just remove the HfH info from the Power Man and Iron Fist article. Doczilla 17:58, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

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