Talk:Aleksandr Aleksandrov (mathematician)

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Please see also the article page wikicode comments. BACbKA 13:15, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

To do[edit]

Photo[edit]

As a result of the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mathematics#Using_images_from_the_St.Andrews_Uni._they_believe_are_public_domain.3F, I have uploaded a photo to commons:Image:Aleksandrov_Aleksandr_1950s.jpeg which is now used in the article (both en: and ru: versions). I am also working on getting a permission to use a better one, from the book. BACbKA 22:53, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

This one was deleted by User:Thuresson, who found the St.Andrews University unconvincing. Personally, I am sure noone would have objected and/or challenged that image from the outside of Wikipedia, but what the heck. --BACbKA 22:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Today I was promised a photo from 1960s of A.D. with various students at an alpinist event, with a permission to publish in the WP. It has however to be dug up from someone's personal photo archive. If I get it, I'll scan it and add to the "Mountaineering" section in the article. BACbKA 16:52, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

This one has never been found, and the said someone is lamenting the loss of it :-( --BACbKA 22:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have uploaded another photo, but I am a bit concerned about the DPI (it's a 150dpi scan off an apparently 75dpi book reproduction). Please look at Image:Aleksandr Danilovich Aleksandrov 1952.jpg and tell me what you think. BACbKA 08:35, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

There is a very reasonable photo of Aleksandrov from the Russian Academy of Sciences web site: http://www.ras.ru/win/db/show_per.asp?P=.id-203.ln-en I think all these photos are fair use since they are promotional in a general/technical sense. Basically the web site is a press/news release of the RAS exhibiting most/all of current and past members. This photo is undaded and the copyright owner is unlisted, but I am still confident in my interpretation. You might want to change the image to this one or simply add it (cf. how I did this with the photo of Yuri I. Manin). Mhym 16:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead, add it, too. I agree it's promotional as per what you're saying. --BACbKA 22:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Mhym 22:43, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Transliteration issues[edit]

Some sources write Alexandr or Alexander for the 1st name, and a lot of sources (including A.D. himself in his last 30 years or so), write Alexandrov for the last name. However, the inconsistent transliteration at the math. genealogy progject really looks like an oxymoron to me: Aleksandr Danilovic Alexandrov. Maybe we could re-work this comment into alternative spellings available in the 1st paragraph instead.

Incorporated in the first paragraph. BACbKA 11:50, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

It remains to verify all the transliterations of the students listed as per how they're spelled in modern citation references. BACbKA 08:42, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Some of the misspellings are very glaring. For example, S. Olovianishnikoff published exactly three papers (two of them posthumous, I think), all with this spelling. It is unfortunate that the Math Geneology Project has no listing for him. I say someone should submit the full list of Alexandrov's student to MGP - their listing is missing quite a few of the people you mention: [1] Mhym 16:22, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I have changed Olovianishnikoff as per your note. They certainly used the old (French rather than English) transliteration standard in the publications as the preprints and abstracts for international use disseminated by the USSR Academy of Sciences were in French at the time. --BACbKA 22:24, 28 February 2006 (UTC) P.S. It's funny, but the book [1] spells him Olovyanishnikov! However, it also spells "Delone", which A.D. himself would never have done, I presume :-) The book is in Russian, but it features an English translation of the Contents, on the pages 398–399, where I am referring to. --BACbKA 23:39, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Right. I am reading this which is supposed to be a "complete" list of the students of Alexandrov and the spelling is different as well. Mhym 17:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bibliography[edit]

There is a huge bibliography in the referenced book [1], I wonder if smth should be put here as well. BACbKA 08:42, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Contributions per domain[edit]

Perhaps a handful of the most important A.D.'s achievements per domain should be listed in the article as well.

  • math.
  • phys.
  • phylosophy.
  • mountaineering done BACbKA 00:46, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

BACbKA 08:42, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

A.D.'s poetry[edit]

Is A.D.'s poetry worth mentioning in the article? BACbKA 22:54, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hi! I thought so, but only briefly, because I found a small bit of humour in an interview with his daughter about it. I put it in the personal life section. However, as i am unable to speak russian, I'm sure there are better sources than mine. I mostly came in to edit some grammar things that were bugging me to heck and back. Hat Jul 22:43, 30 June 2022

Poincaré conjecture statement[edit]

Mhym: the original text contained the Poincaré conjecture statement for the purpose of context introduction. The same text appears in the ru: version, and is traced back to the original entry for the WP authored by V.A.Zalgaller by my request. I find it very appropriate. Do you mind me putting it back? --BACbKA 23:36, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I would say that an elaboration on who is Perelman is already a context introduction. Despite a separate article on him in the Wikipedia, I agree that this is appropriate given the importance of his work. On the other hand, note that the articles on him and on the Poincare Conjecture do a pretty good job. Given that this is really a side issue to the main article (neither did Aleksandrov work with Perelman nor did he work on the Poincare conjecture), I see no reason why elaborate on this rather than leave the reader with a pointer. Mhym 20:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. --BACbKA 22:00, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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