Talk:AutoVAZ
AutoVAZ and VAZ[edit]
I merged AutoVAZ and VAZ; I can't factcheck, however. The only fact that seems off is tje AutoVAZ page says it was founded in 1969, but the VAZ page said the factory was founded January 31, 1970. I've stuck with the 1969 one for now. Also, since I'm not a scholar of Russian, I don't know which of the two scripts to use. I stuck with what was already there:
I leave it to someone else to pick the proper text. --Golbez 09:50, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- It's simple. VAZ as Volzhksiy Automobilny Zavod was a name of the actual car plant opened in 1969; AvtoVAZ is a Industrial Association (a Soviet acronym for a holding) that was created in 1970 and included VAZ and its supply plants. When AvtoVAZ was privatized into a joint-stock company in 1990s, the (already weak) distinction was lost completely. Now JSC AVTOVAZ is the full company name and VAZ is simly a short nickname.
- This similrar confusion applies just about any major manufacturer founded in the former USSR - see ZAZ and AvtoZAZ for an example on the ideosyncrasy of command economy, further deepened by Daewoo Motors' abortive attempts at world domination.
- The VAZ abbreviaton is also used in internal model indices that are widely known to the public. To a Russian car enthusiast, saying VAZ-21104 makes the best chance of being understood as opposed to saying 2004 Lada 110 16V, as per Western brand - model name - model year template. --DmitryKo 17:06, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Name's wrong(?)[edit]
In Russian the company's name is AvtoVAZ, not AutoVAZ, just as an automobile in Russian is an avtomobil'.
Even the company's English name is AVTOVAZ, as this article and the company's web site states. So I'm very tempted to change the name of this entry to "AvtoVAZ".
Any objections?
--Dablaze 05:55, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)
- No objections; I've already un-moved significant part of Lada back to separate AvtoVAZ artice; the merger was unfounded, because Lada is a trade mark of AvtoVAZ, it doesn't make any part of its official name. I also updated a redirect in this article.
- I do believe AutoVAZ is widely accepted, maybe even more so than AvtoVAZ, but the latter is official company name since 1990s. Redirects from VAZ and AutoVaz would take care of any confusion it makes. --DmitryKo 17:06, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)