Talk:Michael Moorcock

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Pseudonyms[edit]

The current infobox list

  1. ^ Bill Barclay
  2. ^ William Ewert Barclay
  3. ^ Michael Barrington (with Barrington J. Bayley)
  4. ^ Edward P. Bradbury
  5. ^ James Colvin
  6. ^ Warwick Colvin, Jr.
  7. Philip James
  8. Hank Janson
  9. ^ Desmond Reid

ISFDB lists for Moorcock (^) all of those except James and Janson, if we equate "William Ewart B." and "William B."

Michael Moorcock at the Internet Speculative Fiction Database
7. Philip James --cf. #Pen Name 'Philip James' - NOT Moorcock

According to ISFDB, 'Philip James' is a name used by James Philip Cawthorn (1929–2008).

James Cawthorn at the Internet Speculative Fiction Database

According to SFE, "After he entered sf around 1954, his career was largely defined by his relationship with Michael Moorcock"

"Cawthorn, James". The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction. 3rd, online edition. Updated 2014-11-30. Entry by 'PN/GW', Peter Nicholls and Gary Westfahl.

On Cawthorn see also the preceding section.

8. Hank Janson

According to ISFDB, Hank Janson is a name used by Stephen Frances (1917–1989)

Stephen Frances at the Internet Speculative Fiction Database

SFE agrees, and adds that it became a "house name" used by various writers. Used for mainly for thrillers; used for SF novels only by Frances.

SFE: "Janson, Hank"; SFE: "Frances, Stephen"

ISFDB lists two more for Moorcock.

10.^ Roger Harris --attribution three 1964 cover art, one 1965 novel
11.^ Renegade --attribution one 1976 essay

Thus ISFDB attributes work, wholly or partly to Moorcock, under the other names listed at the top of the section. Moorcock alone unless "joint" or "shared".

1. Barclay Bill -- 4 from 1965/66
2. Barclay William -- 2 from 1965, 1970
3. Barrington -- 1 use, for joint work
4. Bradbury -- 3 from 1965
5. James Colvin -- close to 100 for joint work from 1959 to 1971 or so [see below, next day]
6. Warwick Colvin, Jr. -- 3 from 1992
9. Reid -- 6 uses, shared for work not joint; 2 by Moorcock from 1962

ISFDB also covers "M.J. Moorcock" and "Mike Moorcock" but those are variants we would not call or label "pen names".

Which should be listed in the infobox? Should James Colvin be distinguished there? Certainly Colvin should be covered in prose, at greater length than we do now. Anyway that prose section needs other sources, for ISFDB does not support the particular things we say now.

--P64 (talk) 23:29, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Done: delete James (obvious) and Hanson (needs source); add Harris and Renegade; mark Colvin "joint work with Bayley"; mark Reid "shared". Here is a copy of the current Infobox list -- *except* that that is run together with semicolons rather than displayed with template {{plainlist}}.
  • Bill Barclay
  • William Ewert Barclay
  • Michael Barrington (joint work with Barrington J. Bayley)
  • Edward P. Bradbury
  • James Colvin (joint work with Bayley) [see below, next day]
  • Warwick Colvin, Jr.
  • Roger Harris
  • Desmond Reid (shared)
  • Renegade
Consider the green questions above. --P64 (talk) 00:12, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Roger Harris is NOT a pseudonym of Mike's. Roger Harris is a real person. He wrote "The LSD Dossier" which was then edited by Mike. I have this verbally and also in writing from Mike, who says in his inscription to my copy of The LSD Dossier "This was cobbled together by me. MM" Keithbowden (talk) 12:05, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(quoting from above) "5. James Colvin -- close to 100 for joint work from 1959 to 1971 or so"
At second glance I see that Moorcock used "James Colvin" close to 100 times almost exclusively 1965/66, not in 1959 (nor pre-1964), and only once for joint work (with Bayley). Their only joint work in ISFDB may be the 1959 story as by Michael Barrington, reprinted in 1966 as by James Colvin.
We do need a source to support what we say in the text, contrary to ISFDB: "he occasionally wrote as "James Colvin", a "house pseudonym" that was also used by other New Worlds critics." ISFDB catalogues James Colvin as Moorcock alone except the one reprint of Moorock-Bayley joint work.
--P64 (talk) 23:23, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
For Moorcock the U.S. Library of Congress lists other names that include James and Janson and it gives Contemporary Authors Online, accessed 2007, as source for both [1]. LC Authorities provides little or no extra detail for any of them but Hank Janson [2], for which no source but this page suggests Janson=Moorcock. Neither our Hank Janson nor SFE Hank Janson [3] suggests that Moorcock used that name.
--P64 (talk) 23:25, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Black Jack Baron controversy mentioned in lede, but not explained[edit]

The lede of this article states, "His [Moorcock's] publication of Bug Jack Barron by Norman Spinrad as a serial novel was notorious; in Parliament some British MPs condemned the Arts Council for funding the magazine."

There are two problems with this sentence:

  • Information in the lede should be explained in the body of the article, but this doesn't appear anywhere in the article other than the lede.
  • There's no explanation of why publishing BJB was notorious. Copyright violations? Too much sex and violence? Mocking British royalty? This is not explained elsewhere on Wikipedia, as far as I can tell. If anyone can explain why this novel was notorious, please explain -- preferably at Talk:Bug Jack Barron#Where's the controversy?.

Thanks! — Lawrence King (talk) 08:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Oyster Cult performance at Dragon Con[edit]

Moorcock only performed with BOC Front Man Eric Bloom, not Blue Oyster Cult as a band. They performed two songs, Veteran of the Psychic Wars and Black Blade. Aapold (talk) 01:13, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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