Talk:Jean Barraqué

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Regarding Foucault being the lover: http://www.newcriterion.com/archive/11/mar93/foucault.htm Seems to be right. -- JeLuF 00:08, 27 Nov 2003 (UTC)

a few points[edit]

au dela du hasard is part of the death of virgil.

Nietsche should be Nietzsche.

i believe the apartment fire was in late 1968. either in the fire or in the process of relocating, he lost the dossier for a work that seems to have been nearly complete: portiques du feu (the gates of hell), a choral work that was part of the death of virgil.

barraque might not have destroyed all or most of his early works, as griffiths' book suggests. it is true that he did not "acknowledge" any of them before the sonata.

i believe that barraque also did not acknowledge, or disavowed, his electronic etude, considering only his six major scores to belong to his true oeuvre.

a few opinions:

the cpo recordings by klangforum are not so "fine." aside from several sonata recordings, not including the one in the cpo set, there are no outstandingly good recordings of barraque's works that are commercially available.

the more excessive claims that have been made for barraque are not in my view excessive.

boulez is a much-overrated composer, and he has done much to bring this about.

barraque's relative obscurity is due in part to the lack of good recordings and frequent performances of high quality, and due in substantial part to boulez's influence and position in the industry.

Royalgardens 17:35, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

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LGBT[edit]

We say absolutely nothing about his private life, yet still categorise him as LGBT. We really do need to explicitly justify why he's in those categories. -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 19:54, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For whatever it's worth, Alex Ross writes "for some time Foucault's lover was the impeccably atonal composer Jean Barraqué" at http://www.therestisnoise.com/2004/10/interesting_pie.html , and in his book Insult and the Making of the Gay Self Didier Eribon gives a more detailed account ("...it seems they were friends before becoming lovers..."). SethTisue (talk) 20:34, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Piano sonata[edit]

Why were there attempts, stretching over years, to get his sonata performed? Couldn't he just have played it himself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.173.223.43 (talk) 09:54, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I take it that you are not familiar with the score, which is of ferocious technical difficulty. Besides, according to Paul Griffiths's article on Barraqué in the New Grove, "Barraqué himself was not a performer".—Jerome Kohl (talk) 17:15, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Footnote 8 should not be "failed verification"[edit]

The NYT article linked to, in its opening paragraph's final sentences, makes clear that Barraque had recently completed a few movements of his "Death of Virgil" cycle, including the work whose premiere is reviewed in that article -- as "a few points" below also states. 100.14.35.44 (talk) 19:40, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]