Talk:OSI (band)

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Moving from Office of Strategic Influence (band)[edit]

Since the name of the band is really "OSI" how does one change the term?

I've moved the page (the old page now redirects here). I've also changed all references on wikipedia so they reference this page and use the correct name. --Minority Report (entropy rim riot) 14:54, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

There's only one or two songs on their fucking porn pussy album which could be considered progressive metal. The rest could be described as alternative rock and psychedelic/progressive rock. - "Anonymous" 11:11, 2 Mar 2006 (EST)

Industrial[edit]

I personally think that OSI could be defined as industrial at points, and it might be notable enough to count. More of a darl Nine Inch Nails style industrial, personally. That's just my opinion, so the point is - Do you think that we could count OSI as an industrial rock band? They certainly have enough synth work to consider the possibility, and they've gotten to a slightly industrial point before, I like to think. RaphaelFaunus 01:01, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(This comment is three years late, but hey!) I've just re-written the article, including cleaning up the infobox. I think the stance to take with which genres to list is 1) to list the genre/s the band describe themselves as, and failing that 2) to list the genre/s the press describe them as. We don't need to go to 2) because, as you'll see in the Musical style section, Kevin Moore describes the band's sound as progressive rock with prog metal and electronica elements. For that reason, I've decided to only list progressive rock, because the band first and foremost consider OSI to be a progressive rock band; and second, listing too many genres will make the field unwieldy.

Re classifying them as industrial - see WP:OR. We might (somehow) decide between us that OSI are industrial metal, electro rock and synth pop - but that would be original research. Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought - it is nothing more than a collation of what has already been said about a subject by people considered reliable. Una Laguna^Talk 19:47, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Note to GA reviewer[edit]

As/when/if a GA reviewer reviews this article (if that's you, hi!), they will notice the lack of band image. Criterion 6 of WP:WIAGA states the article should be "Illustrated, if possible, by images". This article is a special case where it is not possible to include a full band picture. The band has not played any live shows, and made no public appearances, meaning there are no free images of the band available. I have included a picture of guitarist Jim Matheos in the main body of the article (because there are free images available of him, and such an image is relevant to the article), but, as I've said, there are no free images of the band available. Una Laguna^Talk 10:05, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:OSI (band)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: CrowzRSA 03:58, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Generally speaking, the band's official members should be listed in the lead, before the fact that a number of guest musicians appear on their albums. CrowzRSA 01:33, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There are a bunch deadlinks that need to be fixed and replaced before I can pass this. See [1] for all the bad links. CrowzRSA 01:33, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
...while his bandmates took time off before working on their next album, if band members take time off, isn't that just a hiatus? Consider rewording. CrowzRSA 01:33, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is some consistency issues: (Chroma Key, ex-Dream Theater) and ...Sean Malone (of Cynic and Gordian Knot) should be more like the earlier sentence then-Dream Theater drummer Mike Portnoy. CrowzRSA 01:33, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
...add keyboard parts to the music he had written reads poorly. I suggest something like contribute by adding keyboard arrangment. or something. CrowzRSA 01:33, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
...but Matheos wanted to take the music in a different direction to Gildenlöw. reads poorly. Consider rewording. CrowzRSA 00:44, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The album was critically well-received: critics praised the members' musicianship and the fact that the album differed significantly from the members' other projects The colon goes against grammar. CrowzRSA 21:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Before recording the album, the last time Moore and Portnoy had worked together was in Dream Theater in 1994 This should be reworded. I consider something like: The album's recording sessions were the first time Moore and Pornoy collaborated since 1994 in their work in Dream Theater. CrowzRSA 21:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Portnoy stated in 2009 poor English, reword to In 2009, Pornoy stated... CrowzRSA 21:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Office of Strategic Influence was originally intended to be a one-off album. What is an 'one-off album'? I think this is a Weasel word. CrowzRSA 21:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Matheos and Moore never planned to make a second OSI album poor English. CrowzRSA 21:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In 2005, they both had holes in their schedules, so decided to produce a follow-up album. Two things: holes is a Weasel word and they should be inserted between so and decided. CrowzRSA 21:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Matheos and Moore that he did not want to drum on the album did not want to drum; fix to did not want to perform drums CrowzRSA 21:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
to generally positive critical reception. Poor English, to receive generally CrowzRSA 21:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
anticipated that OSI will "remain a studio band". Period should go inside quotes. CrowzRSA 21:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Progressive metal should be linked. CrowzRSA 21:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Progressive rock is overlinked CrowzRSA 21:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Minimal techno, experimental electronic I may be out of context, but shouldn't there be a comma between experimental and electronic. CrowzRSA 21:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to put this article on hold for a month. If fixes aren't made on time, I will fail the article. Good luck. CrowzRSA 21:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I believe I have addressed all of the above points - let me know if anything else needs tweaking! Una Laguna^Talk 16:39, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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