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Burlington and Lamoille Railroad[edit]

I've looked over Edward Lewis' book Vermont's Covered Bridge Road for mention of operations out of Cambridge Junction, but didn't find anything more than than this mention of the junction (on pages 34 & 36) and a few photos of the station at that location: By 1938 the passenger train was running from St. Johnsbury only as far west as Cambridge Junction where passengers could change to a Central Vermont Railroad (successor to the Burlington & Lamoille Railroad) train and continue on to Burlington. I'm sorry for the delayed response, but Lewis' book has no index; so I had the not unpleasant task of re-reading the text. Thewellman (talk) 01:28, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Thewellman thanks for checking all the same, I really appreciate it. Mackensen (talk) 10:33, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Mackensen[edit]

I found an article about Anoop Trevedi who's article is may not meet the notability guidlines of Wikipeida. You may decide what to do.Knowledgegatherer23 (talk) 23:49, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Is it time to close?[edit]

We've had six commentators on my Hank Williams sourcing question at the RS noticeboard. I don't know exactly how many it takes to reach a consensus, but I doubt we're gonna get any more. Tom Reedy (talk) 15:46, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Empire Builder crossing Lake Pend Oreille[edit]

Another fun puzzle: File:Empire Builder crossing Lake Pend Oreille, June 2005.jpg. It's unquestionably an eastbound (albeit physically headed northwest) on the Lake Pend Orielle bridge near Sandpoint. But four things don't make sense:

  • The photo is dated June 2005, and since it's in an entire album of a single vacation, I'm inclined to believe it. But didn't Amtrak stop running head-end cars in 2004?
  • I'm not aware of Amtrak ever running TOFC, rather than roadrailers
  • Four Superliners is awfully short for the Empire Builder
  • The Empire Builder was scheduled to hit Sandpoint in the dead of night. The sun angle here suggests afternoon.

Could this be a freight that happens to be moving Superliners for some reason? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:35, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Pi.1415926535 I agree that a non-revenue move makes the most sense. Four Superliners is plausible for the Portland section, but it's in the wrong place for that, and as you say the light is all wrong. That said, I was on a dreadfully late westbound Empire Builder in 2009 and crossed that bridge in daylight. Amtrak had roadrailers but not TOFC, not that I'm aware of. Mackensen (talk) 20:27, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination for deletion of Template:DB-ICE stations[edit]

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Chicagoan and Kansas Cityan[edit]

Somewhat by accident, I ended up rewriting the history of the Chicagoan and Kansas Cityan. At this point I might as well go for GA - adding a station list, RDT, route description, and map should be pretty easy. However, I'm short on sources for equipment; Classic American Streamliners doesn't have anything of note. Would you mind a quick perusal through your collection? It looks like you were the one to add the Wayner source.

Side note: I doubt it'll be necessary for this purpose, but should you ever want them, this title mentioned in this edit, as well as this title, seem to be available in person near you. Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:28, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Pi.1415926535 looks like I added that reference when I wrote the Big Dome article; Wayner should have more on the initial equipment sets. I also own Reed's book. I have Wayner and Hough, Santa Fe passenger train consists, January 10, 1937, which is too old, and Passenger Train Consists; 1923-1973, which didn't sample either train. Yenne's Santa Fe Chiefs is another potential source. I can also check the Trains and Classic Trains archives. Mackensen (talk) 23:36, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The 25 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal[edit]

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EMD page comment issue[edit]

"undo removal of my comment, which you ignored anyway" I recall getting "edit conflict" as I was trying to put in my own comment, so the removal of your comment was not intentional. Please assume good faith. I noticed you removed mine too, although maybe it was under similar circumstances. Cheers, Graywalls (talk) 23:44, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Graywalls I thought it would be reasonable to let you decide if your comment was still relevant, given that I addressed part of your argument. Mackensen (talk) 23:49, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Tyrol S-Bahn colors[edit]

Hey, I was looking at the S# colors at Module:Adjacent stations/Tyrol S-Bahn and noticed that they were different than those at Tyrol S-Bahn. Which one uses the correct ones? Gonnym (talk) 06:06, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonnym the module; it's based on https://www.oebb.at/dam/jcr:dca525b7-241b-424e-be99-de42a9c3bb62/liniennetz-tirol.pdf. Mackensen (talk) 13:01, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Charles III requested move discussion[edit]

There is a new requested move discussion in progress for the Charles III article. Since you participated in the previous discussion, I thought you might like to know about this one. Cheers. Rreagan007 (talk) 07:22, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Davies-MidiPOLocoList[edit]

Hey, do you know if Template:Davies-MidiPOLocoList is needed? It is currently unused. Gonnym (talk) 20:23, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonnym Unused and presently unusable--I did a few searches to see if the source is used in the text. I checked on the French Wikipedia, and the only citation to any of Davies books appears to be on fr:P8 ex-Prusse, and it's not to the book in question. Mackensen (talk) 20:42, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I'll send it to TfD then. Gonnym (talk) 20:44, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fixing Lua error: Coordinates must be specified on Wikidata or in |coord=.[edit]

Hia @Mackensen, I noticed you fixed another similar error on a rail station back in May, I was wondering if you could do the same for Beliaghata Metro Station please? Qcne (talk) 16:40, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Qcne Done. The fix is to connect the article with the Wikidata item, where the coordinations are defined (Beliaghata metro station (Q109968614)). Mackensen (talk) 16:58, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Railway guides[edit]

FYI, I've created User:Pi.1415926535/US Railway Guides as an index of the various guides. I'm focusing on the 1850s to 1880s for individual links, since the external indexes at the bottom are fairly comprehensive from the 1880s on. Feel free to add any others you find, especially early ones.

  • @Pi.1415926535: Awesome! I might break out the Hathi links anyway. They're less complete than I'd like; we'll want to try backfilling with Google Books. Mackensen (talk) 02:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • NAOTC did some of this work already. I added the first three. Mackensen (talk) 02:25, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good to me. My interest is primarily before 1880 - after that, there's pretty good map coverage for the areas that interest me - but you're welcome to make it suit your needs as well. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:16, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I recently edited this template to hide minor stops, much like what I had done with The Canadian. I still don't quite understand the markup though - the line does not quite match up at Gladstone station. Your help is appreciated - thanks! 162 etc. (talk) 16:36, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@162 etc. I find the collapsible markup tricky myself; I took a stab and couldn't get it to come out right. Mackensen (talk) 16:57, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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611fan2001[edit]

Just to give you a heads up, I wasn’t the one that started the issue, 611fan2001 was the one that caused it. I was only trying to follow the policy and to prevent the article from being vandalized. He’s been doing this for four years already, when ever he sees and edit he doesn’t like, he would go to their talk page and send the user a rude and nasty message very aggressively. When users try to reason with him over his aggressive behavior, he will not accept criticism. But don’t get me wrong. I know yelling at someone and attacking them on their talk page is not ok. Because he still hasn’t been warned yet abd it still baffles my mind that you guys haven’t warn him about his behavior yet, because attacking users on their talk page is not ok and it’s against Wikipedia’s policy to do so. 199.180.167.20 (talk) 19:41, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You should explain on the article talk page why your edits are correct. Mackensen (talk) 19:43, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

First off, you didn’t even acknowledge what I wrote and said about 611fan2001. He’s been doing this for four years already, he still hasn’t warned yet over his aggressive behavior. He literally attacks users on their talk page and tells what to do and what not to do, as I stated, he won’t take criticism whenever users try to reason with him. Because attacking users on their talk pages is not ok. 199.180.167.20 (talk) 19:54, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're making assertions without diffs. There's nothing for me to respond to. For me, the important thing is you're making a change that doesn't have consensus on the talk page of the article. That's what really matters. People don't agree with your reading of the sources. That's where you should focus your efforts. Mackensen (talk) 19:57, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This has nothing to do with the article changes, again, it’s 611fan2001 that needs to disciplined for his aggressive behavior. This behavior of his is not ok, I don’t have a problem of him following the Wikipedia policy, that I’m fine with, it’s his aggressive behavior that needs to be changed. Because it’s not ok to talk aggressive to users on their talk pages. 199.180.167.20 (talk) 20:50, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked you for diffs in a few places; you're not willing to provide any. I've suggested that you engage on the talk page; you're reverting instead. This won't get you anywhere. Mackensen (talk) 21:23, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for standing up for me. He’s still the same self-absorbed user for not listening to a word that I just said from late 2022. 🤦‍♂️ 611fan2001 (talk) 22:38, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Thu Feb 8 NYC Hacking Night + Feb 21 WikiWednesday[edit]

February 8: Hacking Night @ Prime Produce

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for NYC Hacking Night at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan. It is intended primarily for technical contributors, though newcomers are welcome as well!

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February 21: WikiWednesday Salon @ Prime Produce

WikiWednesday is back this month! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our WikiWednesday Salon at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, with an online-based participation option also available. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!

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A tag has been placed on Category:Wikipedia requested images of Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority stations indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. GunnarBonk (talk) 01:45, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oskar von dem Hagen discussion[edit]

Why did you reopen the discussion. A concensus has been reached, so I closed the discussion. Antny08 (talk) 13:13, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Antny08 Please have a look at WP:CLOSEAFD. If I were closing the discussion, I would say that a consensus had been reached to delete, not redirect. As a participant in the discussion, it wouldn't be proper for me to close it. You're both a participant and the primary author of the article, so it's not proper for you to close it either. Deletion discussions typically run for seven days. Be patient. Mackensen (talk) 14:02, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don’t want to lose my edits though, because if they get deleted then they don’t account when applying for administratorship. Antny08 (talk) 14:38, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fandom[edit]

Hey do you do editing on Fandom as well because if you do I want you to make a few edits for me since I can’t do it anymore. I’ve been permanently blocked Max the Media Fan (talk) 17:38, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tue March 5: Wiki Gala NYC[edit]

March 5: Wiki Gala @ Prime Produce
Wiki-fashion show at last year's event

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community and visitors from the global Wikimedia Foundation for our Wiki Gala at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan. All are welcome!

This is a sequel to the March 2023 Grand Central Salon and the March 2022 Wiki-Tent Brunch.

The event will feature lightning talks and a Wiki-fashion show, for which you are encouraged to dress in your finest Wikimedia clothing and accessories (bags, buttons, even books), or clothing connected to the topics you edit on wiki projects.

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WikiNYC: 3/14 Hacking Night + 3/16 Queens Name Explorer[edit]

March 14: Hacking Night @ Prime Produce

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for Pi Day Hacking Night at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan. It is intended primarily for technical contributors, though newcomers are welcome as well, and pies will be served in celebration of Pi Day!

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March 16: Queens Name Explorer @ QPL Tech Lab

You are also invited to the Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Queens Name Explorer edit-a-thon at the Queens Public Library Tech Lab in Long Island City, which will be hosted in collaboration OpenStreetMap US, Urban Archive and the Queens Memory Project. This is an opportunity for the tech savvy to learn about Queens history and for the history savvy to hone their open data skills – plus, there will be refreshments and prizes for everyone!

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Self-outing advice[edit]

Hi Mackensen, I came over here because you're already interacting with an individual who's been trying to contact Amanda duPont - they're using the accounts User:Sikobuhle and User:Mavela buhle as well as an IP. At one point, they added their name [1]. Since Canterbury Tail had a theory they could be a minor I did a quick Google and although they are an adult, it appears they may have some intellectual difficulties. To me it feels like the self-outing should probably be revdel'd if this is the case; I didn't want to post on AN/I because of how visible it is, hence this comment. If this isn't revdel-worthy, sorry for taking up your time! StartGrammarTime (talk) 04:27, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@StartGrammarTime I think you make a good case, and I've referred it to the Oversight team. Mackensen (talk) 10:03, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Mackensen, I appreciate it. StartGrammarTime (talk) 02:45, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I[edit]

Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:

  • Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
  • Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
  • Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
  • Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
  • Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
  • Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
  • Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
  • Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
  • Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
  • Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
  • Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
  • Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
  • Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
  • Proposal 24, initiated by SportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
  • Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
  • Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
  • Proposal 28, initiated by HouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.

To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:

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Icons in |zone= parameter of Infobox station[edit]

Hey, should icons be used in the |zone= parameter of {{Infobox station}} like in Mammendorf station or regular links? Gonnym (talk) 09:48, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonnym I don't think there's consensus one way or the other. I haven't seen icons used very often for fare zones, though we likely have them for Central European tariff associations. Certainly they should be smaller. Mackensen (talk) 12:24, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Glencoe station diagram[edit]

Hello, I noticed your deletion of the station diagram for Glencoe station today, and while I noticed some errors with the diagram and your reasoning was justified, I do not fully agree with it but was wondering if a proposition was possible.

I understand that Wikipedia is not a guide, but the intention was to show a top-down layout of the station and immediate surrounding area, similar to the photograph(s) shown on many other station pages. The diagram and others like it are not intended to provide wayfinding.

Additionally, you had a valid point in that a station with two tracks does not need such detail, but one notable caveat with this line is that it is left-hand running, and may be a notable quirk for those that visit the page.

Finally, when I looked at the most recent version of the diagram prior to deletion, I noticed some problems with what got published. There are no excuses for that and I will have to polish it up, but the main question is… considering the points I made, and if I ironed out its errors and made it collapsed by default, could I restore it to the page?

I suppose I am making a mountain out of a molehill, but I wanted to give my side of the problem and hear yours before adding it back, or conceding and not adding it back.

Thank you for your time, sorry for the long read at a late hour, and I hope to hear from you soon. Thank you. Hotdog with ketchup (talk) 04:05, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Hotdog with ketchup thank you for your kind and detailed note. I'm guided by the 2020 RfC on station layouts, which was skeptical about diagrams in certain cases: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains/Archive: 2020#Closure of 2019 station layout RFC. I wasn't concerned about potential errors in the diagram--I don't know the area well and wouldn't have spotted them--but simply that a two-tracked station doesn't need an explanatory diagram. I agree that left-hand running is a notable quirk of the ex-CNW lines, and can and should be explained in text, but I don't know that a diagram is necessary to convey that information. Whether that takes us into trivial territory is another matter. I don't think it does, because that is unusual in the US.
I don't feel strongly on the question of including the diagram; if you would like to restore it I won't revert. Mackensen (talk) 09:42, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]