Talk:Aron Ralston

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Phish[edit]

This article claims that dude likes PHISH and cites three sources, none of which mention the band. That statement needs to be properly cited or removed. Superwesman (talk) 15:55, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aron mentions multiple times during his public speeches that his favorite band is Phish. Is it possible to cite this? It's definitely not a false statement. Dlsimon (talk) 15:56, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Quality of writing[edit]

This article reads like an elementary school book report that was completed during the commercial breaks of American Idol. Weak-i-pedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.239.51 (talk) 06:23, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Did Aron really meet a couple from the Netherlands after freeing himself?[edit]

He doesn't mention them at all in this interview (excerpt).

Instead, he says "It was such a remarkable synchronicity of me getting myself free and out into the open where then I could be found and that helicopter being there within minutes of when I would otherwise have bled to death that is to me still an astonishing miracle ..."

I find it difficult to believe he would neglect to mention the people who alerted the authorities and ultimately saved his life. Rickyp (talk) 01:41, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, he did. He encountered Eric and Monique Meijer and their son after the amputation. These people supported him physically until further help arrived. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.99.140.91 (talk) 19:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

--> Actually, he did meet the Meijer family (at the Great Gallery of Horseshoe Canyon, several hours after the amputation), but they were not the ones that alerted the authorities. The helicopter was there because Aron had been reported missing two days earlier by his family, and the National Park Service rangers were already looking for him. Aron didn't know that, though, so he sent the Meijer wife (Monique) and son (Andy) to look for help. Fortunately, the helicopter found them minutes later and Aron was taken to the hospital in Moab. It's all described in his book. (I don't know why he didn't mention the family in this interview, though.)

Why is there no reference to Ralston's Jewish roots?![edit]

http://www.ivstatic.com/files/et/imagecache/636/files/blog_articles/aron-ralston.jpg

Here is a photo of Ralston in his Yamulke!...so why the absence of mentioning his Judaism?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.159.111.98 (talk) 04:05, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's not relevant or notable? Bienfuxia (talk) 03:45, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, I'm "antisemitic" because I don't have any interest in someone's religion? If you think it has any relevance to his notability, feel free to add it to the article (with a citation please), nobody's stopping you. Bienfuxia (talk) 07:24, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
His ethnicity is relevant. Wikifan12345 (talk) 09:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How is it relevant? How has it been an influence on his career? I'm not saying it hasn't - but if it has then add it to the article, properly sourced, don't come onto the talk page and make ad hominem accusations. Bienfuxia (talk) 01:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The threshold for inclusion is verifability. If Ralston has acknowledged his status as a Jew then it should be stated in the article. Assuming of course a reliable source can be found. Wikifan12345 (talk) 02:17, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not talking about the threshold for inclusion here, I'm talking about tacking on "facts" about people for no obvious purpose - see this edit - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aron_Ralston&action=historysubmit&diff=413070769&oldid=413047591 Bienfuxia (talk) 03:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If a source exists supporting the claim that he is Jewish or of Jewish descent, it should be included in the article. A simple "American Jews" category would suffice. Wikifan12345 (talk) 23:18, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, of course, nobody's arguing against that. Bienfuxia (talk) 04:04, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wearing a Yarmukle doesn't mean you are Jewish. If it did, I need to go call every gentile who came to my wedding and tell them they are now Jewish.  :-) --User101010 (talk) 21:30, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

None YOU mentioned YOUR religion in these comments! Do you hate yourselves that much? Shame on your anti-Semitic and anti-Christian ways. If Aron's religion is relevant, yours is too. I'll start: I'm an atheist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.239.51 (talk) 06:20, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How dare YOU!! I am a proud Jewish foreskinless male!!! That is why I was enquiring about this white-washing of Ralston's history and heritage!134.159.111.98 (talk) 11:55, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just did a fairly comprehensive online search, and found no evidence that Ralston considers himself Jewish, is the child of Jewish parents, or ever observed Jewish customs. What I did find were some people who were hellbent on believing that he is Jewish. It occurs to me that if it finding this out means so much to them, they could sneak around interrogating former guests at his wedding and also his sister's wedding, and find out if anyone at all was married under a chupah. Of course, that would be rather creepy behavior on the part of the interrogators, but so is this whole discussion. Younggoldchip (talk) 18:51, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling error???[edit]

In the accident section it says "His arm was removed from under the boulder and retrieved by park authorities. According to Tom Brokaw, it took 13 men using a wench to move the boulder so that Ralston's severed arm could be freed." English is not my mother tongue (elsei'd changeit, but maybe i reallydon't get it), but what did those 13 men do with a WENCH???-46.5.52.124 (talk) 00:11, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good point :) it was probably supposed to say wrench.--Kotniski (talk) 08:39, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose so too, but was it really a wrench? Not, say, a crowbar or some other larger type of lever tool? --David Edgar (talk) 10:27, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Quite likely. We really need a source for this whole statement.--Kotniski (talk) 10:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Why would it be a wrench? I think it's far more likely that it was a WINCH. I can't source that, but it seems far more likely that you would remove a wedged rock with a winch than with either a wrench or a wench.
Ah, now that would make sense. Well done (shows I'm not mechanically minded :) )--Kotniski (talk) 08:43, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe it was winch lifting a wench holding a wrench
HA HA HA I did not know Wikipedia was a comedy goldmine...Wench, no...wrench, um...no... WINCH! Ah yes, a mechanical device for moving heavy things!! YAY English!
What be I offered for this wensome winch? (Sorry, couldn't help it.)PacificBoy 16:11, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Was the wench a wretch, or the winch a wrench? (Say it ten times fast!) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 15:48, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is Cherry Creek a typo for Coffee Creek?Dirtclustit (talk) 19:13, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Climb of Colorado's fourteeners[edit]

The claim concerning Ralston climbing all of Colorado's fourteeners has been queried at the BLP noticeboard. According to the Aspen Times he was the first to do this solo, not overall, which the article does specify but I wondered if there might be a way of wording this more clearly.

The article also mentions 53 mountains, citing a source that lists 53 mountains but has no mention of Ralston, there's some disagreement as to the number of mountains that should be counted as fourteeners but apparently he climbed 59 and the article gives the impression he climbed 53. January (talk) 21:39, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is that source mentioned in the article already? A brief search suggests that it isn't, but I may have done something wrong. If it isn't, I suggest that it should be added. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:04, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Added. Questionable whether the other sources there are relevant, the article written by Ralston could perhaps be an external link instead. January (talk) 22:20, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is weight of the boulder known?[edit]

Is weight of the boulder known?

I read that it was around 800-1000 pounds. The MSNBC article says that it was 800 pounds.[1] XP1 (talk) 01:39, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5956900/. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

A photo isn't displaying correctly[edit]

The photo of him in the mountains in 2009 has weird black lines through it, but links to a properly rendered photo. Anyone know why?

Same thing happens for me. Maybe it has to do with the compression or color space? --Fru1tbat (talk) 12:08, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article ays Kilimanjaro Australia, Its in Africa so is the whole sentence rubbish? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.151.201.8 (talk) 22:50, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Assault[edit]

I'm not sure labeling it a domestic violence charge is warranted. Domestic Violence is a charge of its own, and he was not charged with that. He was charged with Assault. Details are still coming out. I think this is a premature label. His wife was arrested too, you know. We don't have the whole story. I recommend editing "domestic violence" to just read "assault" until more is known.134.243.209.75 (talk) 19:12, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There are two noteworthy absences in the article, which make it less than satisfactory. First, in Ralston's autobiography, he made it clear that he gained strength to perform the amputation because of a particular hallucination he had when he was near death. He dreamed, or imagined, a future in which he was the father of a little boy. According to A Rock And A Hard Place, this dream was extraordinarily important in bringing Ralston to realize he still might have a future. It would be interesting to know why this was left out of the article. Too sentimental? Too nebulous? Apparently Ralston didn't feel it was.

Second, the article needs to briefly include the known facts about the domestic altercation Ralston was involved in with his girlfriend (not his wife, by the way). The Seattle Times of Dec. 9, 2013 is one source. I'm not suggesting that the article gas on and on about this (as in trashy showbiz gossip), but it's a noteworthy, though sad, part of Ralston's post-amputation life. In the end it seems he was not charged with any crime, and this should be included. Younggoldchip (talk) 16:23, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

'127 hours' subheading[edit]

Can we get the correct formatting for the '127 hours' subheading. It jars with my vision every time I come to this page and I come daily. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robong (talk • contribs) 05:41, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Ralston-Purina[edit]

Any relation to the self-help guru / cult leader / breakfast food magnate with the same last name? 2600:6C56:6DF0:8150:980C:A23E:EB3B:708F (talk) 17:28, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unusable citation[edit]

Citation 5 leads to an archive page for the Los Angeles Times. I tried to search for the article on the website, but didn’t get any results relating to the canyon accident. AbnusXD (talk) 19:34, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@AbnusXD: Hi, thanks for pointing this out. In the future, you can take the link & try plugging it into web.archive.org. In this case, it returned a whole series of archive dates. I picked the first instance, https://web.archive.org/web/20101109053900/http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2010/11/aron-ralston-the-real-story.html.
One can then use that to glean these three parameters:
  • |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20101109053900/http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2010/11/aron-ralston-the-real-story.html
  • |archive-date=2010-11-09 or |archive-date=November 9, 2010
  • |url-status=dead
The final result should look something like:
{{cite web |last=Simon |first=Stephanie |last2=Kennedy |first2=J. Michael |title=Aron Ralston – the Real Story - Los Angeles Times |website=LA Times Blog: The Daily Mirror |date=November 7, 2010 |url=http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2010/11/aron-ralston-the-real-story.html |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20101109053900/http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2010/11/aron-ralston-the-real-story.html |archive-date=2010-11-09 |url-status=dead}}
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