Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Groupe de Paris du Mouvement Surréaliste
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The result of the debate was delete. Pending deletion. Joyous 23:23, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
Groupe de Paris du Mouvement Surréaliste[edit]
- Delete Advertising and Spam The article was created by Wikipedia user Daniel C.Boyer on June 18,2004. A Google Search will generate substantial hits and traffic, yet this is not the original Paris Surrealist Group (or Surrealist Group in Paris, whatever you want to call it) under the direction of the late Andre Breton who died in 1966. There are numerous credible reference sources that state as fact, that the real Paris Surrealist Group disbanded in 1969 (see "Revolutiuon of the Mind" by Mark Pollizotti) and (What is Surrealism by Andre Breton). This GPMS (Groupe de Paris du Mouvement Surréaliste) is a commercial enterprise run by the friends of the original 1966 group that sell literature and publications to libraries in Paris, as indicated on their home page from their website. Note: the home page of their website, sells catalogues, publications, etc, for 15 Euros. The creation of the article is intended for promotion. Also, links on there site lead to numerous essays by friends and collegues, as well as exhibitions in Prague back in 1999, yet, I cannot find any other substantial reference sources that acknowledge the Prague 1999 as an International Surrealism exhibit. On record the last official International Surrealism Exhibit (the real thing) was in 1965, see Sarane Alexandrian's, "Surrealist Art".Classicjupiter2 01:40, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Classicjupiter2 is nothing more than an anti-surrealist liar. He knows full well that there was a 1976 World Surrealist Exhibition in Chicago; he will find some reason to say that this is not a "real" surrealist exhibit, but it will be based on POV. None of what he says is relevant to VfD, and I am suspicious that an analysis of anonymous POVs will reveal that one of them writing in the same highly idiosyncratic (even Wigdoresque) way is responsible for the not-very-relevant note on price. Yet whether or not they sell publications (Classicjupiter2 is surely aware that the original Paris Surrealist Group and its members sold publications) is a POV question relating, perhaps, to the purity of surrealism; all these questions are POV issues to be discussed in the text of the article but not grounds for deletion. Should be delisted from VfD as Classicjupiter doesn't bring up anything but his POV dislike for the group. --Daniel C. Boyer 16:26, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Please try to remain civil and on topic. This is not the place to bring a greivence against another user. --InShaneee 16:28, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Classicjupiter2 is nothing more than an anti-surrealist liar. He knows full well that there was a 1976 World Surrealist Exhibition in Chicago; he will find some reason to say that this is not a "real" surrealist exhibit, but it will be based on POV. None of what he says is relevant to VfD, and I am suspicious that an analysis of anonymous POVs will reveal that one of them writing in the same highly idiosyncratic (even Wigdoresque) way is responsible for the not-very-relevant note on price. Yet whether or not they sell publications (Classicjupiter2 is surely aware that the original Paris Surrealist Group and its members sold publications) is a POV question relating, perhaps, to the purity of surrealism; all these questions are POV issues to be discussed in the text of the article but not grounds for deletion. Should be delisted from VfD as Classicjupiter doesn't bring up anything but his POV dislike for the group. --Daniel C. Boyer 16:26, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Advertising. Ceci n'est pas un bidon de Spam. Dpbsmith (talk) 04:03, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Surrealicruft. Android79 05:06, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: Google shows 330 hits for "Groupe de Paris du Mouvement Surréaliste", 296 of those without the word "Wikipedia". Without the accent, 353 hits for "Groupe de Paris du Mouvement Surrealiste"; 305 without "Wikipedia". A better google showing than many of the recently listed surrealism articles. -- Infrogmation 05:24, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, group promo. Megan1967 07:18, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Undecided - but you know, third-party evidence that anyone else cares would make that a solid "keep" - David Gerard 13:27, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- 'Comment: Group and its journal S. U. RR is noted on website of INFORSURR, sort of Paris clearinghouse for surrealist information, and in INFORSURRs bulletin, A-info (Anarchist info service), http://www.torchart.com/links.cfm, Upland Trout, http://membres.lycos.fr/incor/avenir1.html, [http://collection.nlc-bnc.ca/100/202/300/bulletin_info_branchez/1996/96-01-04.txt Bulletin d'information
-- -- B R A N C H E Z - V O U S ! --], http://baumgart.net/index.php3?page=88&pub=o. --Daniel C. Boyer 17:40, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:35, Mar 14, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. DanKeshet 05:49, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as ad, possible vanity. Radiant! 14:08, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)
- No vote, but a side remark: I would guess that in all of this which Daniel has tried to spin out into several dozen articles there is one valid article on post-1980 surrealism, if he'd like to write it. This, however, is like writing separate articles about each branch of a marginally notable bank. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:47, Mar 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Not notable. Postdlf 17:50, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete this surrealcruft. Edeans 03:18, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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