Talk:Democracy movements of China

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Weasel Words[edit]

There seems to be a high concentration of weasel words in this one paragraph alone.

Many pro-democracy supporters noted that China has successfully overcome much of the challenges to democracy in China faced during the transition from a communist to a capitalist economy so there is no longer a need for prolonged political repression. They claim that pro-democracy forces would not necessarily stall economic growth after the transition, as the Communist Party states, and more importantly that the presence of democracy would help to check wasteful corruption and might achieve a more even distribution of wealth.[citation needed] Many believe that the Communist Party of China has no intention whatsoever of ever relinquishing power even if all their economic goals are ever achieved; it is said that China would have refused the WTO if the terms of entry were linked to a shift to a Western-style democracy.

It would be great if we could find an expert or work that expresses such views and give that as a citation.--69.230.164.147 (talk) 01:08, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

China[edit]

Something should be mentioned about the China Democracy Party. --Jia ng

This should definitely include all the other democratic movements in China BEFORE the CPC came to power. That includes ROC, May Fourth, and Jiangxi Soviet, etc. -Hmib 02:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Is that why there's a POV tag on it? TastyCakes 20:41, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What about Republic of China?[edit]

There is no mention of the current Chinese Democracy, the Republic of China. Why is this? -- R'son-W (speak to me/breathe) 14:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go to Democracy in China; feel free to edit. :) Intothewoods29 (talk) 23:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Simply, the Communists control the editing of Wikipedia.101.98.175.68 (talk) 07:51, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Because Taiwan is de facto not China. Taiwan has had aspects of democracy for decades, and what is generally considered a full democracy by the '90s, and so its not really applicable to this page, which focuses on current democracy movements in the People's Republic of China. 163.29.35.147 (talk) 02:58, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

difference between two articles[edit]

What are the differences between this article and Democracy in China? Why shouldn't they be merged? Shawnc (talk) 10:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Democracy in China concerns earlier movements, the Revolution of 1911, and the establishment and rule of the Communist Party of China, which can be said to be democratic movements, but do not, or did not, provide for universal suffrage and guaranteed legal rights. User:Fred Bauder Talk 20:01, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jasmine revolution[edit]

The short section seems appropriate. There was a call, not much happened, etc. User:Fred Bauder Talk 19:58, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Capitalization[edit]

This article only discusses the Chinese Democracy Movement growing out of the Beijing Spring and the Tiananmen Square protests. In China right now, there are many different forces that, while differing on the type of democracy China should have, agree that democracy is needed in China and the current system is not working. It is therefore logical to rename this article to Chinese Democracy Movement with capital letters instead, unless good efforts are employed toward updating this article on the true state of democracy sentiments in China.

Estoppel?[edit]

I do not know if this was written by a computer, but what does this mean: "The principle of estoppel was violated by the MSM, which changed its story. Meanwhile, the CSN held its estimate steady at 3,000, not violating estoppel and maintaining the credibility of consistency"?101.98.175.68 (talk) 07:49, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Source describing 1952 for Democracy Movement beginning?[edit]

A source was previously cited for the idea that 1952 was the genesis of Chinese democracy movements. It was not verifiable in English. The academic consensus is that Chinese Democracy Movements began with the Democracy Wall movement. Although its exact dating is arguable, it is generally viewed as November 1978 to spring 1981.

Although we want to be mindful of WP:undue we could cite an argument that 1952 is the beginning of Chinese democracy movements, but we ought to have a quotation from a source that is verifiable. JArthur1984 (talk) 21:42, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]