Talk:Earl of Leicester

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I'm taking out the headings for the Dukes of Lancaster, which I think are distracting and confusing. Same should be done for the Marquesses Townshend, which I may do later if no one objects. Loren Rosen 07:49, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Leicester[edit]

Is that really necessary? Surely people searching for Earl of Leicester would be aware of the correct pronunciation? If the new system is to put the pronunciation of every name that is slightly difficult then i guess i should probably put

Pronunciation of Leicester (pro-nunse-e-ashun ov Lester) as the title for this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.72.81.141 (talk) 16:37, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Almost every wikipedia article has pronunciation guidelines. And I'm sure the wiktionary page for pronunciation has pronunciation guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.127.101 (talk) 08:59, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Numbering[edit]

I am perplexed. The references that are linked are missing or do not contain relevant information. Please see disambiguation page for Simon de Montfort. The Discussion now links to authoritative source that states the Earldom lapsed to the throne after death of last Beaumont. Michael P. Barnett (talk) 22:26, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know, but suspect that the answer is that the numbering is the work of modern or early modern compilers of works on the peerage; and sometimes different authors have different numbering. |I suspect that at the earliest periods "earl" was still partly an appointment. I note that the article refers to confirmation to Simon de Montford in 1207; another compiler may regard this as a second creation. At the time, the view may have been taken that the honor of Leicester was an earldom, so that its holder was an earl. That view still is taken of the Earldom of Arundel, but this is probably a unique survival of an earldom by tenure. Peterkingiron (talk) 20:50, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My concern was evolving when I made this posting. The topic is completely marginal to my interests -- I noticed the error only because I was responding, reluctantly, to a request for help on the Evesham article. I have no time to make the corrections. My major concern, which completely transcends the specifics of people named Simon de Montfort and / or Earl of Leicester is stated at Wikipedia talk:Verifiability#Wikipedia Epidemic error Michael P. Barnett (talk) 11:07, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

External Links and references[edit]

I tried to link to a couple here but they were missing. I hesitate to remove them in case someone more persistent than I finds them, but have I done the right thing by merely commenting? 213.246.92.141 (talk) 00:00, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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