Talk:Chief Mkwawa

Date of death

Copied from User talk:Matt Crypto.

Hello Matt!

You have written the article about Mkwawa. At the moment, i translate this article in german language and I have seen that he obviously died "two times": On June 19 and on July 19... Do you know which if these 2 possibilities is the correct one? Thanks, [[User:Rdb|rdb]] 21:25, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for spotting this inconsistency. The two web pages linked to from this article (which is where I got the info from) give conflicting dates; I don't know for sure, but I've gone with the date from mkwawa.com, and added a footnote until we can be sure. Sorry I can't be more helpful! If we don't sort it out earlier, I'm actually visiting Iringa at the end of January; I might be able to find out more then. — Matt Crypto 18:47, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

An anon recently changed the note to "Unless some websites report the date of Mkwawa's death as 19th of June, it was on 19th of July 1898 (Bericht des Feldwebels Merkl)". I'm not sure what that means! — Matt Crypto 11:12, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Bremen

The reference to Bremen being of special imperialist character is unfounded. According to www.mkwawa.com the skull went to Virchow in Berlin and from there to Bremen's "Übersee-Museum" (then: Museum for Ethnology, Natur and Trade). It is from Bremen that the British decided to pick a skull and call it Mkwawas.

References

I tried to sort that a bit. There were references I could not verify and must leave that to the originator:

• Doebold, Holger, "Schutztruppe Deutsch-Ostafrika"
• Redmayne, Alison, 'The Hehe' "Tanzania Before 1900". (DOAG)
• 'SmallWars' is most probably right, but kindly check it out.

Gerhard51 21:42, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

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