Talk:HeinOnline

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I think too much has been trimmed - how are people to know the difference between HeinOnline and the other services, if it doesn't say what the other services don't provide? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BD2412 (talk • contribs) 04:14, 19 March 2005

I believe it's not correct that you can't search HeinOnline by keyword - you can search an OCR record of the articles, which is obviously not 100% reliable, but it still works fairly well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.154.15.82 (talk • contribs) 14:50, 1 July 2005

Suggest move to company name

I suggest moving this article to "William S. Hein & Co", and converting it to a company article, mentioning Hein Online as a product, and setting HeinOnline as a redirect to the product section of the article. The sources for the company are better than the sources for the product. See discussion of WP:COIN.

Useful non-PR sources about the company:

• They're privately held, 80+ years old, and the grandson of the founder is the chairman of the board.[1]
• A developer bought their headquarters building in Buffalo, NY.[2].
• They won a Vision Award from Niagara University in Buffalo in 2009, and that article has some background on the company we could use in an article.[3]
• They have a gallery of black and white building photographs.[4].
• A Canadian legal publication had a brief article about them.[5].

There's enough here for a company stub. John Nagle (talk) 06:06, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Edit request

Please consider the following changes. Please note that I am requesting these edits on behalf of William S. Hein & Co., Inc. and I have therefore declared my conflict of interest here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#HeinOnline.

Oct. 23, 2015: I have modified the article to include additional non-Hein-website sources, including an article written by Bob Berring, a noted member of the law librarian community (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Berring). I removed the second reference to ScholarCheck, removed the reference to the Choice award and added the fact that Hein was named to the top eContent 100 companies list in 2007, and sourced the article itself. I do realize that I am still sourcing Hein's own sites, but this is the only source where I could find specific information, such as the number of pages, titles, libraries and scope of coverage available.

In re: award significance, the AALL New Product Award is considered significant in the law library community. I missed the fact that this company also won the award in 2001 and 2009.

Per John Nagle's concerns below. Miniapolis 22:15, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

HeinOnline is an image-based, fully searchable legal research database used primarily by lawyers, law schools, and legal professionals. It is a product of William S. Hein & Co., Inc. William S. Hein & Co., Inc. is one of the last remaining independent law publishers in the United States. (source: http://www.slaw.ca/2011/04/19/a-tinkerbell-in-buffalo/)

In addition to its collection of more than 2,100 law journals, HeinOnline also contains the Congressional Record Bound volumes in entirety, complete coverage of the United States Reports back to 1754, trials from around the world dating back to the early 1700’s, classic legal treatises from the 16th to the 20th centuries, the United Nations and League of Nations Treaty Series, all United States treaties, the Federal Register from inception in 1936, and the Code of Federal Regulations from inception in 1938. HeinOnline is available in more than 3,200 locations and 150 countries. (Source: http://home.wshein.com/about/)

HeinOnline contains more than 126,500,000 pages (source: http://heinonline.org/HeinDocs/HeinOnline_Aug_2015_content_release.html) and 59 collections. (Source: http://home.heinonline.org/content/list-of-libraries/) Significant HeinOnline features include ScholarCheck, which is a series of tools integrated throughout the database that allow users to link between documents and to view articles and cases that have a heavy influence on their research subjects; and MyHein, a personal bookmarking tool. (Source: https://help.heinonline.org/)

History

William S. Hein & Co., Inc. is a family-owned independent legal publisher and content distributor. In late 1998, Hein acquired Fred B. Rothman & Co. of Littleton, Colorado. This acquisition made Hein the largest American distributor of print law journals.

HeinOnline was launched in May 2000 after years of collaboration with the law library community. At its inception, it contained 25 law journals in the Law Journal Library. (Source: http://www.aallnet.org/mm/Publications/spectrum/archives/Vol-18/No-4/heinonline.pdf) In 2007, Hein was named to the eContent 100 Companies list. (Source: http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/infotoday/econtent_200712/index.php?startid=55)

In 2013, HeinOnline partnered with Fastcase to bring HeinOnline users the full text of both Federal and State case law. The partnership combined Hein’s expertise in publishing law journals and historical statutory materials and Fastcase’s experience in publishing American primary law. It offers users of both services a complete, integrated legal research experience. (Source: http://www.fastcase.com/hein-and-fastcase-announce-publishing-partnership/) The partnership was the recipient of the American Association of Law Libraries (AALL) New Product award in 2014. HeinOnline was also the recipient of this award in 2001 and HeinOnline's Subject Compilations of State Laws collection received the award in 2009. (Source: http://www.aallnet.org/mm/Member-Resources/AALLawards/award-best.html#winners)

In 2014, William S. Hein & Co., Inc. was listed among Buffalo’s top workplaces. (Source: http://www.topworkplaces.com/frontend.php/regional-list/company/buffalo/william-s-hein-co-inc)

Associated Websites help.heinonline.org home.heinonline.org wshein.com

All sources retrieved October 16 and October 23, 2015. Tak1335 (talk) 17:01, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Five of the references are to Hein's own output, and one is to a business partner. Not one reference is to what Wikipedia considers a reliable unrelated source, per WP:RS. ScholarCheck is hyped twice. The significance of some of those awards is questionable. John Nagle (talk) 17:57, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

References

Additional Sources for Information about HeinOnline

In addition to the sources previously referenced, this 2015 article discusses HeinOnline's relationship with an important legal title and the American Association of Law Libraries:

http://www.aallnet.org/mm/Publications/spectrum/archives/Vol-20/No-2/novdec2015pdf.pdf

This article from 2010 discusses the Hein Company, its employees, and products: http://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/blog/buffalo-law-journal/2010/05/firm-supplies-books-to-high-volume-legal-libraries.html

This article, which appeared in the Buffalo News on June 3, 2012 also discusses the history of the Hein Company, the beginning of HeinOnline, and other company endeavors:

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2012/06/03/6343117.htm

Note that the numbers in these articles have increased significantly. Please refer to the original edit request on the Talk Page for COI information and additional resources.

173.225.61.254 (talk) 15:22, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Article has too much of a promotional tone

It reads like a sales pitch, in violation of WP:NOT and WP:NPOV. The citations are much better now but the promotional aspect needs to be toned down. The article also should be subdivided into sections. --Coolcaesar (talk) 20:10, 27 June 2017 (UTC)