Talk:Baseball cap

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Comments[edit]

The USN also wears that baseball hat (known there as simply a "ball cap") as part of the working uniform. Generally ball caps have the name, hull number (if a ship) and logo on them. Elde 00:31, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

"The baseball cap of the New York Yankees may be the most popular sports team cap and comes in many colors (including the classic navy blue) and varieties." -- any citation or anything for the "most popuplar" bit? And does it really matter that it comes in "many colors and varities"? So do, say, Red Sox caps. Acheron 01:03, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I doubt you'll find citations for that, but among caps being worn here (Dublin, Ireland), it would be the most popular, possibly followed by the Fred Durst style red NBA cap. --Kiand 09:07, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"It became popular as the culture of sports increased in popularity, starting (naturally) with baseball". Why naturally ? Does the author suppose baseball is the greatest sport in any way ? I find this should be removed. Ukuk 19:09, 19 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

it says "naturally" because its a BASEBALL cap you moron. baseball caps started, NATURALLY, with BASEBALL!

it says that the popularity of sports started with baseball, not the caps themselves. the naturally should be removed.

What is the historical relationship between baseball caps and polo/cricket and other sports caps?

Caps in general are all pretty similar so the issue of a resemblence-relationship can be pretty messy (just leave it alone, the internet will quickly make it penile). Nevertheless, if you want to draw a big line, cricket was once popular in the US (it's true) prior to the advent of baseball - became popular due to professionalisation and was a simpler, shorter game which made it much better for working ppl to consume (English sporting cultures were very 'elitist' ie. preppy-like see history of professional cricket & rugby).
Modern history? Cricket players do wear baseball caps when playing (usually one-day matches). The traditional cap is pretty worthless as a sunsafe measure. It may work fine in England but in Africa, the sub-continent, the Carribean and the Antipodes; players have gravitated to the wide-brim sun hat and baseball cap. - Htra0497 16:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You know you instruct to leave well alone and then disregard your own advice. You also produce some dubious history. You've clearly never heard of village cricket or know anything about the socially integrating history of rural cricket in Britain/England. Cricket's decline in the U.S. is to do with the elitism (racism, actually) of American cricket clubs which were indeed 'preppy'. The baseball cap is naturally related to the cricket cap, early baseball players played both games. Are these guys wearing baseball caps or cricket caps? 1907 baseball team. Is the standard baseball cap more suited to baseball as a game, or was it fashion and technology (the invention of latex) as the article suggests? You know, the article description of the forerunner of the modern design: "the brim was much shorter", "the modern hat is more structured, versus the overall "floppy" cap of the 19th and early 20th centuries" basically describes a cricket cap. As it is I'll leap over that for now and just cite the resemblance to a sun bonnet from the BBC article. Hakluyt bean (talk) 00:56, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adjustors[edit]

Should it be mentioned that the adjustable style of baseball cap is a relatively recent innovation? (Probably within the last 30 years.) For more than a century before that, all baseball caps were size-specific. ... Also, even today, all professional baseball players wear size-specific caps. — Michael J 02:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

pictures[edit]

some of the pictures in the gallery are just people finding poor excuses to put pictures of themselves on wikipedia. some of them are really bad quality and should be removed. Soyseñorsnibbles^Dígame 15:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Actually, I'll go so far as to say the gallery is superfluous and should be replaced with a link to the related category on Commons ({{Commonscat|Baseball cap}}. →Wordbuilder (talk) 16:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Professional use[edit]

Police teams, I think they also have a role as an identifier for plain-clothes response teams in the UK, ie for one another and the public, as well as use as a sunshield, generally they display the word word 'police' or black and white check pattern. Branding is something the stiffened front of a baseball cap is ideally suited for. Hakluyt bean (talk) 01:17, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures[edit]

The 'Royal Navy' cap in the section 'Professional use' looks more like a cricket cap to me. The article might reflect a bit more the extent to which 'baseball cap' is a generic term for 'cap' in modern English. Hakluyt bean (talk) 00:02, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There has been an introduction of the last few years of the baseball cap in the Royal Navy. They are very similar to those worn by the US Navy. [1] --Nozzer71 (talk) 17:48, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The 'Thomas the Tank Engine' cap is not a baseball cap either. It's a train driver's cap, with some resemblance to a nautical cap. I repeat my point about 'baseball cap' being adopted in the media/common parlance as a generic term. Hakluyt bean (talk) 22:24, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Wearing the cap backwards[edit]

This article makes no mention of the habit among many owners, of wearing the cap backwards, with the visor bill at the back of the head. Is there any coverage of this topic elsewhere (if so, this article should point to it). If not, here are some starter questions:

Where and when did this practice begin?
What are the advantages/disadvantages of this practice?
Who adopted this practice, and what does it mean to them?
How do other groups react to this, and why?
Are there any trends or new developments regarding this practice?

The help of somebody who knows the answers to these questions would be appreciated. Reify-tech (talk) 00:54, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When I was a kid (I'm currently 60.), I used to wear my ball cap backwards to keep the back of my neck from getting sunburned. I wouldn't be surprised if the current trend was started by skateboarders (as many teen clothing trends often are), and possibly for the same reason.TCav (talk) 21:35, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Casual use[edit]

The baseball cap is a pat of casual wear around the world, and for many types of society, even in places where they don't know what baseball is. However, the whole article only mentions this in one sentence only. Can someone please expand it?--Omar35880 (talk) 02:41, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Snapback[edit]

The article snapback (hat) was recently redirected here, with the reason stated being that it was the same topic. It seems to obviously not be — the baseball cap has a curved peak, while snapbacks' are flat. Should the article be recreated? Jjamesryan (talk | contribs) 22:25, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Weirdly in this article, there is no mention whatsoever of the importance of the baseball cap in hip hop fashion. The baseball cap is the number one hip hop icon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.61.243.128 (talk) 21:48, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

British Genders[edit]

This saved my day:

In Britain the baseball cap has the additional advantage of being unisex and suitable for wear by both male and female officers.

British editors might want to explain their country's peculiarities. :-) Werner Vogel (talk) 00:36, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mention how they used to only be for baseball but now have anything you can think of on the front[edit]

I have a cap with a logo of my favorite restaurant. I have a cap of the company logo where I work. I saw someone wearing a cap that shows an image of a cow on it and says “I’m vegan”. Donald Trump has a "Make America Great Again" cap. My kid has a Ghostbusters cap and his friend has a Pokémon cap. These aren’t just for baseball anymore. SaltySemanticSchmuck (talk) 19:39, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]