Talk:Rafah

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Opening comment[edit]

Working on it. waiting for the library to open - can't find anything online. Ridiculous. 80.178.69.175 10:16, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Anti-Tank Missiles[edit]

I made a change from the term "anti-tank missiles" being fired at IDF forces to "RPG" (rocket propelled grenade), which is more accurate. If there is evidence of an anti-tank missiles (missiles are guided, rockets are not), being used, I'd love to hear it because I'd be curious. If so, change back. Terrapin

Rafah and the Rephaim?[edit]

Could the village of Rafah possible have any connection to the "RAPHA" or "REPHAIM" mentioned in the Bible?

Needs a picture[edit]

The article needs at least a skyline photo of Rafah, to enrich the article. Once somebody finds and uploads one add it to the infobox. Al Ameer son

I agree, but I removed the photo of the bombed mosque because it was an obvious effort to push POV rather than illustrate the subject Edgespath24 (talk) 12:06, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
We can take it out of the info-box, but sadly, the picture *does* illustrate the subject. Inserting it into the body. Huldra (talk) 20:18, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Only crossing?[edit]

I see referenes online and at Sufa to the "Sufa crossing" between Israel and the Gaza Strip. Have there been any others since the end of the 1948 war? Have they all since been closed? -- Beland 20:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I think this meant to say it's the only crossing between Gaza and Egypt. -- Beland 16:54, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mosque in Rafah, destroyed during the Gaza War.[edit]

there is no place for this pic. it will be better to have no pic at all. Nachum (talk) 07:32, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I wish we had a better picture, but we don´t. I cannot see that the article would be better without pictures, though. If you find a better picture with a licence which we can use, please upload it. Huldra (talk) 20:17, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)#General guidelines: "Relevant foreign language names (one used by at least 10% of sources in the English language or is used by a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place) are permitted." Rafiah and the whole Gaza Strip were de facto part of Israel between 1967 and 2005; therefore, according to the guidelines, the Hebrew name is permitted -- especially since the transliteration of the Hebrew name is already there. --My another account (talk) 12:17, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Its not relevant, it was not de facto a part of Israel at any time (occupation is not sovereignty), and ive removed the transliteration to deal with the more pedantic part of your argument. nableezy - 15:38, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
occupation is not sovereignty -- so what? Dunkirk and Lviv both give a German name in the lead, Daugavpils and Tskhinvali both give a Russian name, Nablus and Hebron both give a Hebrew name, how many more counterexamples do you need? --My another account (talk) 21:09, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You said it was de facto a part of Israel. The part you quote of my response is in regard to that falsehood. Hebron has a Hebrew speaking population and a Biblical history that warrants the inclusion of Hebrew, Nablus likewise has such a history. Rafah however does not. nableezy - 22:32, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have a couple of older Israeli maps which include Gaza Strip and West Bank as part of Israel, not even showing any border between them. Do you want me to scan them? Or what would you accept as an evidence that Israel had treated these territories as part of the country? --My another account (talk) 22:49, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Lol no need. Israel never ever ever treated the Gaza Strip, or indeed the West Bank with the exception of East Jerusalem, as part of Israel. nableezy - 23:27, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome to back your conjecture with any evidence. I have presented mine. --My another account (talk) 08:37, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to the above, I want to note that many articles about Israeli cities with mainly Jewish population (Eilat, Beersheba, Ashkelon, Ashdod, Tel Aviv, Caesarea, Tiberias, Haifa, Safed, and perhaps others) include the Arabic name in the lead, and take no offense at it. Why should the rules for Palestinian cities be any different? --My another account (talk) 22:49, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Since Arabic is an official language in Israel (together with Hebrew, of course), *all* places -and persons- in Israel should have the names in both Hebrew and Arabic, Huldra (talk) 22:52, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I dont know about including it for all people, but for places yes, as Huldra mentioned Arabic is an official language of Israel. Hebrew however is not an official language of the Palestinian Authority. nableezy - 23:27, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@My another account: Regarding the guideline, it allows for an etymology section instead of alternative names in the lead, which this article already has, and then says "Once such a section or paragraph is created, the alternative English or foreign names should not be moved back to the first line." Therefore you were in fact editing against the guideline. You need a better reason for your edit and I don't see one. Zerotalk 23:40, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
A great many articles, including Palestine itself, do have an etymology section and a multitude of alternative names in the lead, so the guideline doesn't seem to reflect the established practice. I have started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names). --My another account (talk) 08:37, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Humanitar[edit]

https://www.inn.co.il/flashes/969325 2.55.12.247 (talk) 10:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from being in Hebrew 2.55.12.247 the report about the IDF spokesman in Arabic's announcement of a tactical truce between 10:00 and 14:00 isn't really relevant to this page. Mcljlm (talk) 14:22, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 March 2024[edit]

add to the page Meandmybrix (talk) 07:25, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: the copyright status of that file seems iffy to me. Either a) it is official and not the uploader's own work, and they have violated copyright by uploading it to commons under CC, b) it is unofficial and their own work, so not encyclopedic, or c) it is official and their own work, which would be pretty strange and I would want to see a source where it is used. If it is their real logo can you give a source? HansVonStuttgart (talk) 07:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of "State of Palestine"[edit]

Hi, on 12 February an anonymous / logged-off user removed all four mentions of "State of Palestine" in the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rafah&diff=prev&oldid=1206530279 I believe it should be readded, don't know what you think. 84.109.78.250 (talk) 09:05, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, fixed, but please format this kind of thing as an edit request next time per WP:MAKINGEREQ because of WP:ARBECR Sean.hoyland (talk) 09:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Offensive[edit]

Netanyahu just approved an offensive into Rafah. Refugeee numbers prob need to be updated, current event tag, and section in history is needed soon. IEditPolitics (talk) 01:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]