Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Economic Consequences of the Peace

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The result of the debate was transwiki; article replaced with temp version, text dump moved to The Economic Consequences of the Peace/text awaiting transwiki. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 19:32, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The Economic Consequences of the Peace

Text-dump of a book. Might be suitable for either wikibooks or wikisource but I was unsure. Xezbeth 20:29, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

• Comment: If life of the author + 50 applies, then this is still copyrighted for another year. Gazpacho 20:43, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • The actual rule is

Any copyright still in its renewal term at the time that the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act becomes effective shall have a copyright term of 95 years from the date copyright was originally secured. U.S. Copyright Law, section 304(b) [1]

• which takes it to 2014, assuming the 1919 date is correct. Speedy delete for Copyvio. —Wahoofive | Talk 21:00, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Copyvio is not a reason for speedy deletion, especially when the copyright status is in doubt. Kappa 00:01, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• But if the 1919 date is correct, then its copyright had already expired by the time the CTEA became effective. The U.S. public domain includes all works published before 1923. This is a fairly notable book, though. Transwiki to Wikisource, then Redirect to John Maynard Keynes. Shimmin 23:56, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

• • Accord. Pre-1923 means public domain, so transwiki. -- 8^D ^gab 00:26, 2005 Apr 8 (UTC)
  • I stand corrected, of course the Mickey Mouse Copyright Protection Act (i.e. the Sonny Bono act) only protects post-Steamboat-Willie material, although it's still a transwiki/delete since it's a source. —Wahoofive | Talk 06:08, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• I will rewrite this as a temp article. This is a very important book by John Maynard Keynes first pointing out the problem with the peace treaty. It was the also the first book to create Keynes' reputation in the general community and also served as a guidepost when he was involved in the discussions for establishing the financial framework for the West after the second world war. This is an important book by an important author and deserves a decent article. Capitalistroadster 10:42, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Transwiki Its source material. Perhaps replace with stub if someone care to write about the importance of this work. Gmaxwell 20:53, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • As promised, I have rewritten this as an article The Economic Consequences of the Peace/temp. I would suggest that we put this temp article in its place. The book was a bestseller with 140,000 copies in 11 copies sold by 1924. It established the accepted wisdom of the Treaty of Peace as a Carthaginian peace. It was influential in the decision of the US not to join the League of Nations and was influential in undermining public support for implementing the Treaty regarding Germany. All of these points plus the ones made above are made in the article. The Economic Consequences of the Peace was one of the most influential books written in the twentieth century by anyone. Capitalistroadster 05:53, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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