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Untitled[edit]

Unas, was also called Unas, Slayer of the Gods. People claimed that he devoured gods to gain their powers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.162.255.229 (talk • contribs) 02:56, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • The pyramid is supposed to be "Beautiful are the Places of Unas" not Teti. So it has been corrected. A source would be I.E.S. Edwards' "Pyramids of Egypt" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muirwood (talk • contribs) 07:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have rejigged this page a bit - might delete the 5300BC references, as this seems a bit wild - anyone got a reference for this ? 08:40, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
    • There was a bout of vandalism not so long ago, and someone added the text verbatim from this source (scroll to the bottom of the page): http://www.musicsonglyrics.com/N/nilelyrics/nileunasslayerofthegodslyrics.htm. This is from doing a Google search on a few words from the submitted "article". It appears to be some explanitory text for what I assume is a heavy metal rock band song. The information, as far as I can tell, is not incorrect, thought the 5300BC statement is definitely extreme, as are some of the comments with regard to the "magick" of the hieroglyphic text found on Unas' walls. Since the text is basically a cut and paste from another site, it should either be wholly removed for reasons of copyright infringement, or heavily re-written/edited (preferably with attributions) to make it fit.
      • Yes, most of this was stolen from the explanation to the song "Unas, Slayer of the Gods" by the South Carolina death metal band, Nile. Karl Sanders, one of the guitarists, vocalists, and the main lyric writer is well-versed in Egyptology, though he has no official degree. Personally I would trust most of his information, but for the sake of wikipedia, the article needs a more authoritative source than a heavy metal musician with a hobby in Egyptology. Plus it is plagiarism from the booklet of Nile album In Their Darkened Shrines
    • I have moved the section on the pyramid complex to its own article (and removed reference to 5300BC as this seems to be erroneous). I will tify up the new article, as it seems to be rather breathless in style. Markh 15:41, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

wenis redirect[edit]

What? Isn't wenis the hard skin at your elbow? Why's it redirect here? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.58.245.168 (talk) 05:45, 12 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]


  • because that is one of the names he has been refered to as.

but it doesn't say that he has been referred to as wenis? it has Oenas, Unis, or Ounas. no wenis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.209.238.62 (talk) 10:29, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Who were Unas' parents?--Mychele (talk) 15:47, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mychele Trempetich In spite of the complete lack of evidence bearing on the question, Egyptologist think Unas' father was probably his predecessor Djedkare Isesi (mostly because of the apparently smooth transition between the two). The identity of his mother is completely unknown. We might logically suspect one of Djedkare's queens, but the only candidate known to us is Meresankh IV, who was quite possibly a wife of Menkauhor Kaiu instead. (Sorry for the nearly five years delay to get your answer). Iry-Hor (talk) 07:33, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Phallic stone slab[edit]

Really? This almost seems like a joke considering the article name. Captain Skank (talk) 21:03, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article Review (2015)[edit]

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Tim riley (talk · contribs) 08:31, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]


A few minor drafting points before I start a close reading against the GA criteria:

  • Opening
    • The four variant spellings of Unas's name in the opening of the lead are not consistent with the six versions at the top of the info-box, where Onnos and Onnus have crept in.
Green tickY Corrected. Iry-Hor (talk) 15:29, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Historical sources
    • The last sentence of the first paragraph could do with a citation.
Green tickY Done. Iry-Hor (talk) 15:29, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Trade and warfare
    • "perdured" – not a word I have ever met. I've just looked it up, and I suggest your readers would be glad if you used a more common synonym such as continued, endured or persisted.
Green tickY Done. Iry-Hor (talk) 15:29, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pyramid
    • "long causeway, equalled only" – if the article is in AmEng, as it seems to be, you want "equaled" here.
Green tickY Done. Iry-Hor (talk) 15:29, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • "deliminating" – even the Oxford English Dictionary doesn't know this one.
Green tickY A garbled translation of a French word. Corrected!
  • Pyramid texts
    • The last sentence of the first paragraph lacks a citation.
Green tickY My bad, I had forgotten it, done. Iry-Hor (talk) 15:29, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have corrected a few typos: please check that you're happy with the changes I have made. Tim riley talk 08:31, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Tim riley: Your corrections are quite alright! Iry-Hor (talk) 15:29, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Final comments
  • Citations
    • There are five explanatory footnotes that could do with citations. The statements are not contentious, as far as I can see, and I don't regard the absence of citations there as a sticking point for GA, but if you're going on to FAC you'll need to address the matter.
Done. Iry-Hor (talk) 15:11, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Activities
    • Byblos has been linked earlier: the duplicate link should be removed, I think.
Yep, done. Iry-Hor (talk) 15:11, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Legacy
    • The New Kingdom is another duplicate link, but if you felt it should remain because the first mention is right at the start of the main text I'd have no quarrel with that.
I have removed the second link. Iry-Hor (talk) 15:11, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise, I have no further comments, and I have much pleasure in promoting the article to GA.—Tim riley talk 09:22, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Iry-Hor (talk) 15:11, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Overall summary[edit]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    Well referenced.
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    Well referenced.
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    Well illustrated.
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
    Well illustrated.
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
The above discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim riley (talk • contribs) 08:31, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sarcophagus[edit]

Article identifies the sarcophagus as black basalt. However, German WP sidebar about the Unas Pyramid states it's made of Greywacke, a type of sandstone: Am Fußende des Sarkophages aus Grauwacke (nach älteren Bestimmungen fälschlich auch als Basalt angegeben).... Also says sarcophagus contained remains of mummies, not "scattered bones."

(Disclosure: I know nothing about this subject, having discovered it via the July 5 TFA.) Sca (talk) 20:22, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sca Thank you for the information, I am aware of this and I am not sure where the editors of the German wiki got this because in his book on Egyptian pyramids, Mark Lehner clearly state that the sarcophagus is of black basalt and contained a few bones, not a mummy. Iry-Hor (talk) 18:28, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Alas, German WP is famous for being unreferenced. Sca (talk) 20:49, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Unas or Unis[edit]

While most references to this pharaoh seem to gravitate towards the "Unas" transliteration, I could find no source that clearly defined why this spelling has become more prominent than the "Unis" spelling. The actual hieroglyphic depiction of this pharaoh's name includes the reed symbol which is almost always transliterated as an "i" or on occasion "e", given this I don't see why "Unis" isn't the more common if not entirely dominate form of spelling. While my understanding of the subject is far from complete and I may be missing a key piece of information, I reckon the most prevalent and default spelling should be shifted to "Unis". 207.141.87.105 (talk) 07:59, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:COMMONNAME. Wikipedia follows whatever is the most prevalent spelling, regardless of whether it is logical. Furius (talk) 09:03, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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