Talk:Klaus Voormann

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British English?[edit]

Isn't it 'English English'? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.50.40.139 (talk) 23:02, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[]

Confusion[edit]

This is a peach. Again: there is no way to know what the original author had in mind (if in fact the author knows).

'In the early 1960s, Voormann decided to leave Germany and move to London. He was invited by George Harrison to live with George and Ringo Starr in their apartment on Green Street. After John Lennon and Paul McCartney moved out to live with their respective wife and girlfriend; Cynthia Lennon and Jane Asher, Voormann found jobs as a commercial artist and then rented an apartment of his own.'

email interview[edit]

Alireza Hashemi with Klaus Voormann

(Don't edit)

From an e-mail interview with Klaus Voormann:

A.H: Were you ever resentful of Astrid and Stuart¹s relationship?

no.

K.V: How close was the film ³Backbeat² in portraying your true personality?

I think they were pritty much of the track.

A.H: Of all the bands you¹ve played in and of all your collaborations, which one do you consider to be the most memorable?

to me paddy,klaus+gibson. we toured together, no money,no future.but still playing with those boys was great.

A.H: What are your memories of the Plastic Ono Band¹s concert in Toronto?

what sticks now - after all these years - in my mind is.it must have taken a lot of guts for john to get out there and perform.for us it was hard too but o.k. and then again,we´re not john lennon.

A.H: What did you like the most about John Lennon and George Harrison?

(this question takes too long to answer.)

A.H: Does it bother you that a great deal of your prominence and achievement is attributed to your relationship with the early Beatle band mates?

no,it´s only natural.as long as people give me some credit for what I´ve done then it´s o.k..

A.H: What are your fondest memories of the Concert for Bangladesh?

K.V:the happy faces of all those great people even though they didn´t get payed for their participation.

A.H: As a final point, what does the future hold for you?

K.V: thank you!I´m working to become a better illustrator.I need to learn more about graphic techniques to be able to express all the ideas that spinn around in my head.

I hope you´re happy. all the best, klaus


To the author:

While I had the same impression reading the autobiography that Klaus Voormann is "harping" a little about a few things, especially about his relationships to the Beatles and other musicians I cannot see that he regards himself as the "most important contribution to Rock 'n Roll in Germany". My impression on him was that he is quite an unintrusive person. His book is certainly no crowning achievement in terms of sophisticated literature but gives a nice insight in the Beatles history and the characters of the members.

I seriously wonder why and to what extent Klaus Voormann shall be dishonest about his relationships and his private life. I feel that the author should allocate his allegations about Klaus Voormann as it could be seen as derogative to characterise him as dishonest if one cannot prove it.

Joachim Bernstorff, Germany

It says in the article that Klaus does not focus at all on his "achievements", so he is not harping on about anything. --andreasegde 11:15, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[]

GA[edit]

I want to start on this article soon (after Mimi Smith gets an FA, and Brian Epstein gets a GA). If anybody wants to help, it could be good fun. andreasegde 14:19, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[]

I have upgraded this article to B-Class. andreasegde 17:59, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[]

July 2009 release[edit]

[1]. PL290 (talk) 12:40, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[]

Identical Text at Two Sources[edit]

The referenced links to the biography at beatlemaniashoppe.com are broken, but the text archived for it at archive.org is identical to the the text of the biography that still exists at rockstore.net. So I've pointed all the beatlemaniashoppe references to the rockstore one, rather than leave the impression that there are two independent sources. I don't know which one came first, but the rockstore one is more accessible. Cimbalom (talk) 18:23, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[]

Introductory paragraph could be beefed up[edit]

I've noticed that wikipedia intros generally list accomplishments in the most flattering light; reading the article, I don't think this has been done for Voorman. I would have expected something more like, "Klaus Voorman is a Grammy Award Winning Cover Artist, and was bassist for [enter #] top ten singles, including John Lennon's 'Imagine.' He is also a producer, composer and what-have-you. He is perhaps best known for his association with the Beatles." There's probably a fair rule governing why this isn't the opening paragraph, but I genuinely was surprised at the downbeat nature of the intro after I read the entire article. --203.45.146.36 (talk) 07:52, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[]

Hey, cheers for that, much better! 203.45.146.36 (talk) 01:06, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[]

Grammy?[edit]

What's happened here? Why has it been reverted, without even any discussion? And why hasn't the grammar even been fixed? It's like someone just wanted to take away 'grammy-award winning,' cos -- what? They don't like Klaus? 203.45.146.36 (talk) 02:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[]

Okay, someone's not explaining themselves -- I changed it back, and right after, literally within the same minute, someone changed it back again. Who's doing the changing and why are you doing the changing?? 203.45.146.36 (talk) 02:41, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[]

Okay, I just viewed history, and there's a comment next to the change (change made by someone named 'HG'), saying "Bias -- discuss further in article to maintain neutrality." How is it baised? It's just a fact -- he either won the thing or he didn't; and he did. I'm not saying he deserved the award, or that it's good to have the award, or anything that would normally be considered 'baised.' It's a fact like the epithets in the opening sentences of James Blunt and Imogen Heap's Wikipage. At the least, if you disagree, please come here and explain why.

And whatever else, please use good grammar. Are you suggesting that it's biased to say "an artist" rather than "a artist"? Again, you'll need to explain here.203.45.146.36 (talk) 02:57, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[]

Wacked Sentence![edit]

In the opening paragraph of the Early Years section which speaks of his family, this sentence - "In his July 2010 interview on "Talking Germany", Voormann discussed his dyslexia." - ends the paragraph. It's inclusion at that point seems illogical as there is no "lead up" to that information other than his father was a physician. It's like saying, "Voormann played bass with Manfred Mann. He wears Puma shoes exclusively as mentioned in an interview." I was tempted to delete the sentence, but wanted to pass this by someone - or several someones - to get other opinions on this issue. Thoughts?THX1136 (talk) 19:39, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[]

Beatles drawings[edit]

As much as I remember, Voormann's German autobiography states that he never actually drew the Beatles back during the Hamburg days, but that those were really drawings he made decades later in the early 2000s to specifically illustrate the book, using his own memories, photos made by Astrid Kircherr back in the early 60s in Hamburg, and hiring lookalike models. One anecdote he relates is how his publisher had suggested the idea for these drawings and hiring the models, and he was especially flabbergasted when one day his agent came in with what looked and moved exactly like a young John Lennon from their Hamburg days, and it felt a bit to Voormann like he was meeting a ghost. But as soon as "John" opened his mouth, it was clear that he was really from the deepest backwoods somewhere in rural Bavaria. --87.180.197.207 (talk) 18:08, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[]

Assessment comment[edit]

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To the author:

While I had the same impression reading the autobiography that Klaus Voormann is "harping" a little about a few things, especially about his relationships to the Beatles and other musicians I cannot see that he regards himself as the "most important contribution to Rock 'n Roll in Germany". My impression on him was that he is quite an unintrusive person. His book is certainly no crowning achievement in terms of sophisticated literature but gives a nice insight in the Beatles history and the characters of the members.

I seriously wonder why and to what extent Klaus Voormann shall be dishonest about his relationships and his private life. I feel that the author should allocate his allegations about Klaus Voormann as it could be seen as derogative to characterise him as dishonest if one cannot prove it.

Joachim Bernstorff, Germany

Last edited at 17:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 21:19, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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London flat[edit]

According to the Jane Asher entry, McCartney moved into her parents' house in December 1963. If Voormann moved into the Green Street flat after this, and then went back to Hamburg in 1963, he could only have been there for a matter of weeks, or even days. Something's wrong somewhere. MongogramForCandy (talk) 16:07, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[]