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Featured articleCaelum is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
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Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on February 11, 2014.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that when astronomer Lacaille originally charted the constellation Caelum, it was recognized as an "engraver's chisel"?
Current status: Featured article

Untitled[edit]

(This table is largely experimental. Don't mess about with it - use the Talk page if you want to discuss the format, etc. There should eventually be a page explaining the format of such tables. The absolute magnitudes probably need to be changed a little to take into account the improved distance estimates, especially for Beta Caeli. The HD numbers are provided mainly so that additional data can easily be found from the Hipparcos catalogue http://astro.estec.esa.nl/Hipparcos/HIPcatalogueSearch.html.)

The summary table appears on top of the "Brightest stars" table in Safari. -- Mpt 08:41, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Latin for Sky[edit]

I just checked it out, Caleum can mean both "Sky" or "Heaven" but it can also mean "The chisel".

Source here --> http://www.latin-dictionary.net/search/latin/Caelum

The entry says 'Caelum (Latin for chisel, and similar to Latin for of the Sky)', yet, when I looked it up on a Latin site, it said caelum means sky.--Jcvamp 20:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It says the same here and here and here too.--Jcvamp 20:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Caelum means sky or heaven and it is also the name of a character in the Wayfarer Redemption. --62.219.228.172 (talk) 09:21, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

caelum (1) the burin or engraving tool. (2) the heavens, sky, air, climate.[1] kwami (talk) 09:38, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

Article Passed GA Review
This review is transcluded from Talk:Caelum/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: ТимофейЛееСуда (talk · contribs) 15:54, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings! I will be reviewing this article for whether it meets Good Article Criteria. My initial review will be followed by a prose review and I expect that to be up in the early hours of tomorrow (UTC). -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 15:54, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


Wow! This article is very well written, and is most definitely GA-quality.
  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. Has an appropriate reference section:
    B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    I am happy to pass this article as it meets all of the criteria of being a Good Article. I have one suggestion, however, that the caption for the image of the constellation include information about where it was taken or where it can be seen from. If you don't have any specifics, I would suggest adding that it can be seen from the southern hemisphere. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 20:12, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-FAC feedback[edit]

Got something to add from the Wagman book a bit later. Will have a read and jot any ideas I can think of below. Anything which breaks up, "star A is spectral type X, magnitude Y, and distance Z...star B is spectral type XX, magnitude YY, and distance ZZ....star C...." is helpful. Maybe some interesting tidbits about the stars will help. Will have a think. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:50, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Others - RS Caeli is a polar, which is pretty cool and I would have thought notable. Might be worth looking in to.
Although I wouldn't agree for pretty much any other constellation, I do agree that RS Caeli may be worth mentioning simply due to the dearth of objects in this constellation. ST, on the other hand, I still don't think is notable enough to be mentioned. StringTheory11 (t • c) 05:13, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I added the above on the fly earlier today. Hadn't looked into references as yet. All depends on how intensively the stars have been studied. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:15, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]


pronunciation[edit]

I was surprised to see /si/ as the pronunciation of the first syllable. Wiktionary has either /kae/ or /tʃɛ/, either of which would make more sense to me. Are there "official" pronunciations, or is this simply one editor's choice? --Lasunncty (talk) 09:11, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

/kae/ would be the pronunciation in Latin, /tʃɛ/ the pronunciation in Church Latin. Constellations use Anglicised Latin, so /si/ is correct. 2.24.117.70 (talk) 18:24, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations![edit]

Congratulations to all the contributors to this featured article. You deserve a lot of applause, recognition and appreciation. What a wonderful article.

  Bfpage |leave a message  19:45, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Bfpage, The main improver was StringTheory11 - a few of us have been systematically improving constellation articles, the latest two that have not yet passed FAC are Corona Borealis and Serpens. Any feedback WRT readability from a layperson on either or both of them would be much appreciated (to see if you think they are as good as this one). cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:12, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Meteor shower?[edit]

The infobox says there’s one meteor shower associated with this constellation, but I find no evidence or mention of that anywhere. Does anyone have a source? Or should I just change that to zero? CielProfond (talk) 21:25, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Meaning and origin of the name Carafe (the Carafe group of three galaxies in Caelum)[edit]

That's what I want to know. How did this group (NGC 1595, NGC 1598, the Carafe galaxy, all three known as the Carafe group) received this odd name, and what is the meaning of "Carafe"? DannyCaes (talk) 17:04, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]