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"Conflict with Jordan"[edit]

This sentence seems unclear: "Hussein’s response was to propose to Faisal II of Iraq a Jordanian-Iraqi union to counter the UAR, which was formed on February 14, 1958."

Which one was formed on February 14, 1958: the UAR or the Jordanian-Iraqi union?

the UAR was former on Feb 1st. the Federation of Arab Republics (Iraq-Jordan) FAR was formed on Feb 14. but last only a fe months as the Iraqi King was soon overthrown.Xerex 01:16, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

End date[edit]

1970 and 1971 are both cited as the year Egypt stopped using the name UAR. Which one is it and what was the exact date of the name change? Jbenson964 18:01, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Map's wrong[edit]

The map mixes all of the proposed Arab federations together, but it should show only Egypt and Syria in red, not North Yemen and Libya, as well... —Nightst a llion (?) 21:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unitary / Federal[edit]

The article at one point mentions that the UAR has a Federal Constitution, then later states it is a Unitary state. The two are incompatible. Not sure which it is, but considering the merger of two countries in this way Federal seems more likely.

Coat of arms image[edit]

Think the wrong coat of arms image is used in this article -- the inscription definitely didn't read الجمهورية العربية السورية , and probably the "Eagle of Saladin" was used... AnonMoos (talk) 06:54, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected COA image. AnonMoos (talk) 14:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gumhūrīyah vs. Jumhūrīyah[edit]

"Gumhuriya" is the local Egyptian pronunciation, but "Jumhuriya" is the more standard pan-Arab pronunciation, and also closer to the pronunciation used in Syria... AnonMoos (talk) 07:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I think "Ǧumhūrīyah" (with G with a little hachek-thingie on top) was supposed to be a compromise. See further Talk:Coat_of_arms_of_Egypt... AnonMoos (talk) 05:50, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed it to be al-Ǧumhūriyyah al-ʿArabiyyah al-Muttaḥidah (DIN standard) for both - there's really no need for two transliterations. Standard transliteration for Arabic doesn't take into account local articulations of specific sounds (ظ for example is transliterated <ẓ> everywhere, even though /ðˠ/ is the more prestigious pronunciation!) Wensgot (talk) 15:49, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Map wrong[edit]

Gaza strip was part of Egypt until it was annexed by Isreal in 1967. So the Gaza strip should be included in the map. Ijanderson977 (talk) 09:39, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Egypt said that it merely "administered" the Gaza Strip, and very specifically refrained from annexing it (though Egypt "administered" with an iron hand). AnonMoos (talk) 10:35, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Moreover, Isreal never "annexed" the Gaza strip, which was occupied in the full by the Isrealis between 1967-1994 and in part until 2005. --A.S. Brown (talk) 23:03, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

national anthem[edit]

The box with "national anthem" says "Oh, my country" I think this is "Walla Zaman Ya Selahi", but this anthem was adopted in 1960. From 1958-1960 the UAR used an anthem comprising the anthems of the kingdom of egypt and that of syria. The link links to Bilady Bilady Bilady, which wasn't adopted until 1979. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.205.198.172 (talk) 20:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and see Walla Zaman Ya Selahy and Homat el Diyar. This needs to be changed.--189.33.9.33 (talk) 03:40, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AnonMoos (talk) 15:46, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong flag for Successor state[edit]

Wrong flag is shown in the info box for Syria. Should be same flag as the UAR flag.--Mistakefinder (talk) 07:41, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, that flag was used for two years after the secession 1961-1963, and then when the Baath Party seized the government, they changed it back into the UAR flag. Yazan (talk) 07:48, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nassar considers sending troops[edit]

It is my information that President Nassar went further than "considered sending troops" to Syria, but in fact the troops were on the ships that were getting up steam in order to get underway when Nassar was given the intelligence that caused him to call off the planned invasion of Syria.Whogonot (talk) 13:18, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, and probably would be worth mention in the article if there were a reliable source that confirmed "your information". What we say now is not wrong, bcz "consider[ing] sending troops" covers a wide range of circumstances that includes issuing orders whose cancellation remains feasible. (In fact, the established wisdom that "No military plan survives contact with the enemy" arguably implies that the precise boundary between military planning and action lies at that point of contact: "considering" action and effecting that action are separated only by the time (seconds??) by which contact is later than the first moment when contact can no longer fail to occur. IMO.)
--Jerzy•t 02:23, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Egypt and Syria retained seperate currencies[edit]

I have edited the 'Currency' entry in the info box. Both Egypt and Syria issued currency in the name of the United Arab Republic, but the currencies issued remained separate. They were never merged or unified. There never was a common "UAR pound" as the entry claimed. There may have been an agreement to issue a common currency, but if there was such a plan it was never carried out. Alfons Åberg (talk) 22:45, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Nasser's position on union type[edit]

I've read in an article (The Ba'th of Syria and Iraq) that the Ba'th advocated a union with Egypt because of fears of the growing support of the communists, and Nasser's condition for such a union was a total union, rather than federal. This seems to contradict the mention in this wiki article that it was the Syrian delegates that proposed total union. In fact I'm looking at the 3rd note/source, and don't see any mention on the site about such an encounter. The source is pretty much lacking any in-depth information about the UAR. †Brain† 02:22, 7 April 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brainiac3397 (talk • contribs)

After Syria's secession[edit]

The UAR didn't necessarily cease to exist following the 1961 Syrian coup d'état. It continued with only Egypt (and before the Six-Day War, the Gaza Strip) until 1973. It held numerous negotiations with Iraq, North Yemen, and even Syria on unification. How come none of this is mentioned? Charles Essie (talk) 19:52, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Gaza Strip and Sinai[edit]

Can anyone expand the section to include the Israeli takeover of Gaza and Sinai from 1967 to 1971? --135.23.145.49 (talk) 01:27, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There are two tags for expansion needed on 1 paragraph, however, the paragraph is not essential at all to the article, and there are other articles includes what happened to Gaza and Sinai, two are included under the title of the paragraph. So, there is no reason to insist on writing more when the subject is not quite essential. Braindot4 (talk) 21:22, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What's the matter with Israel/Palestine being disputed ?[edit]

While Palestine as a sovereign state didn't exist of the time of the union : Arab Palestine still existed as a political entity in the form of an Egyptian protectorate/trusteeship in the Gaza strip , the All-Palestine Government .

It's true its de-facto authority was weak , being subordinate to Egypt , but per evidence : they joined the union willingly , at least officially , and issued an official resolution for such purpose .

https://archive.org/details/HusseiniAminEl/HUSSEINI%2C%20AMIN%20EL%20%20%20VOL.6_0053/page/n1/mode/2up?q=%22arab+palestine%22

"A report from another U.S agency dated 19 March 1958 stated that Husayni , now a resident of Cairo , announced on 16 March that his Palestine Arab Government formed in 1948 in Gaza is still the legitimate government of all Palestine and wishes to join the UAR . on 4 April 1958 the Associated press reported that the Gaza Legislative Council passed unanimously a resolution calling for membership in the UAR"

Seeing All-Palestine was dissolved later , then per this primary historical evidence : it definitely joined the UAR . I propose removing "Palestine" and "Israel" , and replacing them with a hyperlink to the All-Palestine Government's Wikipedia page , with this declassified CIA document used as a citation . 2001:16A2:A02:A946:A90D:5780:FBEC:EB66 (talk) 16:37, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]