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Question[edit]

Was he leading an army to prevent partition, or going to lend his influence over public opinion, in an effort affect the decision? --Jerzy (t) 14:32, 2004 Sep 16 (UTC)

Death[edit]

The article says nothing about the circumstances of his death, other than Bolivar's reaction to it. Where did it happen? Who did it? who ordered it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.87.19.210 (talk) 21:00, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you read the section headed "Assassination of Sucre at Berruecos", you will find details of the circumstances of his death. – CorinneSD (talk) 17:50, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Presidencies[edit]

There's nothing in the article about his presidency of Peru or Bolivia, except for mentions in the infobox. Rojomoke (talk) 16:50, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Banknote[edit]

http://colnect.com/de/banknotes/banknote/15782-10000_Bol%C3%ADvares-1998_Issue-Venezuela

10.000 BsF of 1998 carries his portrait.

http://colnect.com/de/banknotes/banknote/15785-10000_Bol%C3%ADvares-2000-2006_Issue-Venezuela

10.000 BsF of 2000 carries a different portrait of him. Name on right side of portrait.

--Helium4 (talk) 10:51, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-Pichincha military career[edit]

The military career section jumps straight from one sentence about the beginning of his career "In 1814, Antonio José de Sucre joined the fight for South America independence from Spain." straight to the Battle of Pichincha eight years later. We really need something in between there. T.plicata (talk) 21:48, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tranlastion of "Excelso".[edit]

"Almighty God" (Dios Todopoderoso) is NOT the best translation for "Dios Excelso". It should be translated as "Most High God" in my opinion. "Highest God" would be consistent with "modern" English Grammar but it would be historically inaccurate. "Most High God" can be found in English translations of the the Bible (Daniel 3:26; 5:18, 21; Acts 16:17; and, Hebrews 7:1). Another possibility is to translate it as "Excellent God" which I have not found in the Bible.

Sources:

1. http://dle.rae.es/srv/search?m=30&w=excelso

2. I am Ecuadorian. He is buried here in Ecuador.

3. I know EVERYTHING about him. He is one of my favorite military strategists.

4. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/excelso

5. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/excelsus#Latin

6. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/excelsus#Latin

7. Several times "excelso" in Spanish bibles is found as "high", "very high", "exalted", etc. in English bibles. (For instance, 1 Chronicles 17:17, Psalm 71:19; 89:27; 92:8; 97:9; 113:4; and, 138:6)

George Rodney Maruri Game (talk) 23:57, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As no one has even commented about. I will be bold and make the edition because I know I am right.

George Rodney Maruri Game (talk) 21:19, 5 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Origin and meaning of the name[edit]

French descend, his name means "of Sugar" in French.

"De Sucre" is still a name used in France: https://www.filae.com/v4/genealogie/Search.mvc/SearchForm?ln=de%20sucre This name comes from the region called Ariège in France. "Sucre" is also a name, and it was the nickname for the sugar sellers. "De Sucre" is probably the same, or it's the name of someone who had a sugar production (beets in France) domain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.91.51.235 (talk) 07:10, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]