Talk:List of rail accidents (2000–2009)

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Flags[edit]

I've reverted the removal of all flags from this article. It is a long-standing conventions that flags may be used in lists of identify countries. This is done on a vast number of lists covering rail accidents, shipwrecks, aircraft accidents etc. The reason for the removal of the flags was WP:MOSFLAG, which is a guideline. Most of what MOSFLAG says seems to be aimed at biographical articles, not lists such as this. Mjroots (talk) 10:53, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I feel that the flags are redundant decoration; we already explain where each accident happens, and these rail accidents are in no way "national". This isn't a list of countries, it's a list of rail accidents.
WP:MOSFLAG says "Do not emphasize nationality without good reason" and "Accompany flags with country names"; this article fails on both points although I'm more concerned about the former than the latter. Neither of those rules are specific to BLPs (although BLPs are a common focus for nationalistic rivalry &c) bobrayner (talk) 11:12, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If we're discusing the interpretation of policy & guidelines on flags, then it's likely to affect a lot more articles than this one, so I think it would be a good idea to get input from other people, not just you & me How about a different venue? Take it to WT:MOSFLAG, or maybe even an RfC?
RFC opened here. Mjroots (talk) 16:55, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've again reverted the removal of flags. Although the RFC has run for 30 days, it has not been closed. I'm not convinced that the overwhelming consensus is that the flags are to go. But, if they are going, the simple removal of the flags is not the way to do it. Each entry will need to be rewritten to remove the flag, an introduce the name of the country concerned in text, as flags are not supposed to be replacing text. Let's wait for the RFC to be actually closed, then go from there. Mjroots (talk) 15:19, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just to add that I took a look at the version without the {{flagicon}}s, and I found some of the entries difficult to follow, with at least one with no wikilink left. If the flags themselves are to go in a quick edit, I think it might be preferable to replace them with a plain wikilink, and then work through those manually to ensure that location information is not lost. Alternatively, these should be combed through first to ensure that the location will be as clear once the flags are removed before doing so. Tim PF (talk) 18:39, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I totally agree with you Tim PF. If the flag is the only indicon of location, then we have to find some way, be it a (rewrite of the entry), to link to the location, IF RELEVANT. I noticed flags are applied to trains that most certainly traverse more than one country, so does the flag indicate where it crashed, or the owner? Mjroots Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (icons)/RFC on the use of flagicons in lists had participated in this rfc. What he is saying sounds like he is pretending he had no participation of the consensus building process. Also, @Mjroots, admins do not need to close discussions, and only most deletion discussions need to be closed by admins.Curb Chain (talk) 23:39, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Tim PF, which entry is that removing the flag removed all indicia of location? Another reason we don't need to use the national is because this is to unspecific.Curb Chain (talk) 23:42, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I was aware of the RFC about this, and had watchlisted the talk page, but I wasn't following it too closely, and I cannot say that I noticed very much consensus on the issue.
The one I particularly noticed was the Indian one you missed the first time: "* India August 18, 2006 – two carriages catch fire on the Chennai-Hyderabad Express near Secundrabad station". However, a quick scan down from there to the end show up quite a few which don't conform to the * {{flagicon}} date – [main article], location: description format. Most of those appear to be on islands or large countries such as India where nationality is unlikely to be an issue.
As for transnational trains, most of the ones I have noticed only concern two countries and the trains are often shared or jointly owned. The {{flagicon}} appears to relate to the site of the crash at the time, which is also likely to be one of the joint owners, unlike with aircraft, where a plane registered in A can crash in B when flying from C to D. Do you notice an example where the aircraft scenario is the case?
If you note the edit history, you'll see that I deleted 16 long uncited incidents for 2008, but I didn't think of checking the formats as well; that would have taken a lot more time. I do try and pick up formatting on new additions, but trudging through every year will take a considerable time, and even longer if the {{flagicon}} (or plain country link) has gone (yes, I know I can juggle an old version in another browser window). Tim PF (talk) 09:28, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Why? You just stated that not all incidents have pertinance to the flag, which represents a country. Why are there flags at all? "The {{flagicon}} appears to relate to the site of the crash at the time, which is also likely to be one of the joint owners,": So your not sure about this? Then why include the information? In any case, the flags can go for now, and the information can be added later. Take this case: If you were to include the country information now, removed some flags, and leave flags on others, other editors will start adding the flags back. In any case, shouldn't each of these entries researched throughly before being added? Also, there was consensus was established with the extra section that we added onto the guideline. Please follow it, and if you choose not to participate in our discussion, then I can't agree with your claim that consensus was not developed.Curb Chain (talk) 05:54, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I might be misreading you: "However, a quick scan down from there to the end show up quite a few which don't conform to the * {{flagicon}} date – [main article], location: description format. Most of those appear to be on islands or large countries such as India where nationality is unlikely to be an issue.". So you mean that the flag shouldn't even be appended to the entry, for islands, because the nationality is so irrelevant? Well I agree with you, and all the flags are not relevant, because the location is. The size of the country makes the site of the crash irrelevant; in Canada, a much more precise location is worth much more than the nationalism of the flag.Curb Chain (talk) 06:18, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You are still misreading me, although that may be a knock-on effect of me misreading you.
If one of your reasons for removing flags is because the nationality may be misleading, then that can only affect incidents to cross-border services (which are only a small proportion of incidents), and you have not cited such an incident for which a wrong flag is currently used. Islands and large countries go together with (sub-)urban rail systems, which are not trans-national.
I have also not advocated just removing flags from some entries. Once you have cited some incidents for which the flag is contentious or incorrect, I might then be able to consider if those should be corrected, or if it is better to just systematically remove the flags, whilst preserving the correct location. Tim PF (talk) 13:56, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well we do know the incidents' location. But including the flag, as you have mentioned above, may mean/indicate many different things: the location, the companies' nationality, the country in which the trains' registered, the country that pays' the day-to-day running of the trains', etc.Curb Chain (talk) 01:26, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hypothetically, but you have not yet cited any examples for which this is a problem. Tim PF (talk) 19:16, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So you are saying there are no conflicts/contradictions?Curb Chain (talk) 06:56, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No, I'm just saying that I hadn't noticed any, but that you appear to be saying there are; it should be much easier for you to show even one such example, than for me to trawl through to show that there aren't.
Furthermore, it is one matter to remove those flags because there are clear problems or due to MOS policies, and quite another to do so because you just think there might be. Tim PF (talk) 09:38, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You are right, that's why I haven't removed them.Curb Chain (talk) 11:30, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Terrorism Acts[edit]

Shouldn't the page be renamed 'Rail disasters', because accidents can usually mean there is nobody to blame. If someone intentionally causes a disaster, such as the London Underground bombings, then saying it's a disaster could be offensive to those who just survived, or to families of those who died in bombings. You don't call 9/11 an 'accident' do you? Just making my point here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.125.225.224 (talk) 16:40, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unreferenced items removed[edit]

The following entries were removed as they were unreferenced. Feel free to reference and re-add them. Mjroots (talk) 08:45, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • February 6, 2000 – Germany – Brühl, Germany: An express night train from Amsterdam to Basel passes a construction area at excess speed and derails at Brühl station on the main line between Cologne and Bonn, crashing into a nearby house. Nine people die.
  • March 2, 2000 – Denmark – Kølkær, Denmark: Two regional trains collide head-on after one passes a red signal. Three people die and 39 are injured.
  • April 5, 2000 – Norway – Lillestrøm in Skedsmo, Norway: A freight train's brakes fail between Strømmen and Lillestrøm; it collides with a stationary freight train at Lillestrøm station. Two gas wagons loaded with propane catch fire and 2000 people are evacuated in fear of a boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion (BLEVE); there are not any casualties.
  • June 6, 2000 India – A bomb explodes on a train in Bathinda, India, killing two people and injuring one.
  • June 28, 2000 – Indonesia – 13 children die after a goods train they were riding on derails in Padang. As a result the Indonesian government cracks down on passengers clinging onto the sides of freight trains as a means of free travel. (Source- BBC)
  • July 13, 2000 – Canada – At 14:15, a CN train hauling 28 grain cars derails after hitting a tractor trailer hauling a caterpillar 4 kilometres (2.5 mi) west of Wainwright, Alberta. The locomotive engineer and conductor, and the truck driver were only slightly injured.
  • July 28, 2000 – Brazil – At 21:15, a commuter train stopped at Perus station is struck by another, which had started moving on a sloped section of 5.5 kilometers (3.4 mi) because of a brake failure associated with power supply failure (overhead lines) near Jaraguá station. Nine people were killed and 115 injured.
  • August 15, 2000 – Kenya –According to a Kenya Broadcasting Corporation report, a Butere–Kisumu commuter train carrying 400 passengers derails on the shoreline of Lake Victoria, Lela, Nyanza, Kenya, in an incident caused by brake failure, killing 13 people; another 36 are injured.
  • August 17, 2000 – Kenya – Six die in Kisumu after a freight train hits a packed bus on a busy level crossing during the morning rush hour.
  • August 19, 2000 – Kenya – According to a Kenya Television Network report, a Mombasa–Nairobi freight train with liquefied gas explodes and catches fire at Mavoko, Eastern, Kenya, killing 25 people and injuring 50; most of the dead and injured are residents of houses near the railroad line.
  • April 26, 2001 – United States – A freight train hits a back of a semi near Chicago, Illinois, causing multiple car wrecks along the busy traffic.
  • December 25, 2001 – Indonesia – A packed passenger train careens into a station just outside Brebes, Indonesia and slams into a stationary train from Jakarta, killing 27 people and seriously injuring dozens according to the local authorities and Indonesian Red Cross.
  • March 30, 2002 – Spain – A Spanish high-speed express train on the Valencia–Barcelona route of the Euromed collides head-on with the Tortosa-Barcelona Catalunya express. Between both trains, 600 passengers were on board, five cars of the Euromed are damaged at Torredembarra station, outskirts of Tarragona, Catalunya, Spain. At least four people die and another 88 are injured.
  • May 2, 2002 – Canada – Firdale, Manitoba, Canada: An eastbound CN train collides with a trailer; about 20 cars carrying plastic pellets, benzene, glycol and hexane catch fire, forcing the evacuation of nearly 200 residents.
  • May 25, 2002 – Mozambique – Tenga, Mozambique: In an accident reminiscent of the 1889 Armagh rail disaster, passenger carriages, separated from a train also carrying freight, run away and smash into a cement train, killing 200 people.
  • May 28, 2002 – United States – Clarendon, Texas, United States: A BNSF Railway coal train exceeds its movement authority under an "after-arrival" track warrant while the engineer is making a personal cell phone call, and collides head-on with a BNSF intermodal train. All four crew members jump from their trains before impact and are injured, the intermodal engineer fatally.
  • December 21, 2002 – India – Kurnool train crash, 20 people die when a passenger train derails in Andhra Pradesh, the result of sabotage.
  • Jan 6, 2003 – United States – Burbank, California: A Metrolink train struck a stake truck at the dangerous Buena Vista crossing and derails in the Los Angeles suburb, killing 2 people and injuring over 30. This crossing had several previous non-fatal accidents.
  • March 1, 2003 – Taiwan – Chiayi. A brake system malfunction aboard a train on the Alishan Forest Railway causes the driver to lose control and the train plummets into a valley. 17 people die, 173 injured.
  • May 9, 2003 – Hungary – Siófok. A German tourist bus disregards the crossing signal at a level crossing and is struck by a fast train from Budapest to Nagykanizsa. 33 tourists are killed.
  • October 14, 2003 – Taiwan – At Yingge, Taipei County (now New Taipei City), Taiwan, a bus carrying students on a field trip collides with a south-bound train, killing 4 and injuring 42.
  • November 26, 2003 – Democratic Republic of the Congo – Matadi-Kinshasa Railway - a train runs off the line in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and is damaged in the river, officially causing 10 deaths.
  • April 7, 2004 - United States - Flora, Mississippi, United States. 1 person dies and 35 are injured when Amtrak train The City of New Orleans derails over the Big Black River due to an out of place section of rail.
  • August 4, 2004 – Turkey – Near Tavsancil. 6 die and 85 are injured when a train driver falls asleep at the controls, goes through a red light and hits a stationary train head-on.
  • October 23, 2004 – Japan – Nagaoka, Niigata. During the Chūetsu Earthquake eight of ten cars of the Toki No. 325 train on the Jōetsu Shinkansen derail. None of the 154 passengers are killed or injured.
  • November 3, 2004 – United States – Washington, D.C. An out-of-service Washington Metro train rolls backwards into the Woodley Park-Zoo/Adams Morgan Station and hits a revenue train servicing the station. No one dies, 20 people are injured. The National Transportation Safety Board [RAR-06/01] determines that the probable cause was the failure of the operator of the out-of-service train to apply the brakes to stop the train, likely due to his reduced alertness.
  • November 10, 2004 – Turkey – Ankara. 37 die when an express train hits a truck on a crossing near Ankara and derails.
  • November 14, 2004 – Turkey – Ankara. 15 people die and 45 injured as an express train derails near Ankara.
  • January 12, 2005 – Canada – Fort St. John, Manitoba. 5 cars of a CN propane tanker train de-rail, causing a major evacuation.
  • January 17, 2005 – Thailand – Bangkok. 140 passengers are injured in a collision of 2 metro trains in the new MRT Blue-line.
  • February 14, 2005 – United States – Oxnard, California. An Amtrak Pacific Surfliner train smashes into a semi truck carrying frozen strawberries. The heavy impact destroyed the back of the semi, severely damaged the train's front, and separated the locomotive from the rest of the passenger cars. There were 2 people aboard the train who had minor injuries. The cause of the accident was that the traffic signal wasn't functioning correctly with the railroad crossing, causing the confused truck driver to stop on the railroad tracks. There are 2 cameras set up on both sides of the crossing, showing the accident.
  • April 14, 2005 – United States – Solon Springs, Wisconsin 19 cars of a CN train derail and cause a forest fire.
  • May 9, 2005 – India – Biaora, 8 die when a bullock cart is hit at a level-crossing in Biaora.
  • June 30, 2005 – Indonesia – 2 die and 80 are injured (most seated on the train's roof) when a passenger train between Bogor and Jakata ploughs into the back of another train that is waiting in the station after a previous train had broken down outside the same station. Intense rain is blamed for reducing visibility.
  • July 14, 2005 – Poland – Gliwice, two freight trains crash entering the station, one engineer dies, the engineer of the other train is seriously injured.
  • November 26, 2005 – United Kingdom – Moy near Inverness, Scotland. 9 are airlifted to hospital when a First ScotRail Class 170 DMU derails after hitting debris from a landslide caused by a local blizzard.
  • Jan 6, 2006 – United States – Burbank, California: A Metrolink train struck a passenger car at the dangerous Buena Vista crossing in this Los Angeles suburb, killing 1. This confusing and badly designed crossing had several previous fatal and non-fatal accidents and Metrolink had ignored NTSB recommendations to improve it.[original research?]
  • February 16, 2006 – Greece – Serres, Greece. An inter-city train strikes a truck at a grade crossing near Serres and derails. A passenger and the truck driver die, and 20 people on the train are injured.
  • March 10, 2006 – Taiwan – Hualien, 5 railroad workers die when hit by a southbound train.
  • July 11, 2006 – Bangladesh – A train collide with crowded bus at an unmanned railroad crossing at Akkelpur, Jaipurhat, Bangladesh, killing at least 33 people, another 30 are injured.
  • November 9, 2006 – India – 40 people die and 15 are injured in a West Bengal rail accident.
  • December 28, 2006 – Mexico – In the industrial zone of Cuautitlán in Mexico City, 24 people die when their bus collides with a 36-wagon freight train. Another 12 passengers arehurt. Police arrest the bus driver who reportedly tried to flee the scene.
  • January 10, 2007 – Woburn, Massachusetts - A MBTA Commuter train crashes into a work crew, killing two and injuring three crew members. 40 passengers on the train are also injured.
  • February 6, 2007 – Hungary: An EU Regio passenger train traveling 101 km/h hits the end of a freight train between Almásfüzítő and Komárom stations. The driver of the passenger train dies, 4 passengers are injured.
  • March 6, 2007 – A freight train collides with a Diivarasekwa–Mbare regular route bus at a rail crossing on the outskirts of Harare, Zimbabwe, killing 34 and injuring another 30.
  • April 16, 2007 – A passenger train crashes into a minibus carrying local council officials at an unmanned rail crossing in southern India, killing 11 people and injuring the other 12 in the vehicle. Seven of the injured are hospitalized in serious condition.
  • July 4, 2007 – A rail worker is killed by train numbered D1 near Jialing railway station. He saw the up train numbered T48 but did not see the down train numbered D1 from the other direction.
  • July 30, 2007 – Two subway trains collide in Caracas, Venezuela in a tunnel near the Plaza Sucre station in western Caracas, leaving 1 person dead and 6 injured.
  • October 13, 2007 – 4 people die and more than 50 are injured when the rear carriages of the Probhati Express derails near Dhaka, Bangladesh.
  • January 7, 2008 – A freight train is derailed by a tornado near Harvard, Illinois. The entire incident was recorded on a surveillance camera on the front of the train. No one was injured.
Just found some newspaper report for that; still researching, since the YouTube video of that incident is well known among railroad fans…
Cleanup begins after first January tornadoes in 57 years Daily Herald article, January 8, 2008. Retrieved April 26, 2018.
--DscheJ-Ouh (talk) 21:35, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • June 23, 2008 – A freight train rams into a minibus at a level crossing in Nurdagi, Gaziantep, Turkey, 11 bus passengers die.
  • August 16, 2008 – Torrential rains lead to a landslide which causes a packed passenger train to derail in Portarlington, County Laois, Republic of Ireland. No one is injured.
  • September 24, 2008 – Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia: two RapidKL LRT trains collide about 200 metres (660 ft) from the Bukit Jalil LRT station. A carriage of one of the trains involved in the accident hits the rear of the other train. Four passengers are injured.
  • November 19, 2008 – An LIRR train collides with another during AM Peak times. This caused serious mainline delays.
  • May 1, 2009 a passenger train travelling from Dublin–Waterford in Ireland struck a cow in south Co. Kilkenny at 8:25 p.m. The engine and one carriage partly derailed but was put back on the track by the sleepers. No one died but the engine sustained damage and required two other engines to remove it from the train. The rail line also sustained some damage.
  • May 9, 2009 – One railroad employee badly injured when a train heading from Jacksonville to Miami derailed near Palm Coast about 6:45 p.m. Two locomotives and 37 cars on the Florida East Coast Railway train jumped the tracks due to a kink in the rails. Some rail cars contained hydrochloric acid. Hazardous materials teams from the St. Johns County Fire-Rescue were called to the scene to try and prevent the leak and spread of the substance. On Sunday, a Jacksonville haz-mat team was sent to assist. Both engines of the train and 37 cars–including automobiles, corn syrup tanks and boxcars–left the tracks. No. 104 the leading engine was saved but 701 was damaged badly and was scrapped.
  • June 7, 2009 – A girl trying to take a picture of a nearby bridge in Bacău is struck and killed by a regional express train.
  • July 14, 2009 – A Dakota, Minnesota, and Eastern freight train collides with parked rail cars in a local yard in Bettendorf, Iowa, a part of the Quad Cities. Both the engineer and conductor, who are from Savanna, Illinois, die. The front locomotive is severely damaged and will likely be scrapped on site. The DM&E is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Canadian Pacific Railway.
  • August 4, 2009 – Bogor, Indonesia :2 Commuter train crash before reach Cilebut station. Only one killed on this accident and it was a Pakuan express train driver assistant.The 2 EMU type of this accident is 6000 series ex Toei Mita line (Used for Pakuan Express train) set 6151F and 2 set economic train used BN - Holec EMU'S.Later after this accident set 6151F (car 6151)has merged with survivor Kampung Bandan accident (set 6181, car 6188, 6175, 6176) and later 4 survived in 2 accident train in Jabodetabekser line was complete for restoration and later given name (Djoko Lelono 2)
  • August 14, 2009 – A bus ignores rail crossing signals in Scânteia (Iaşi county) and is struck by a semi-fast train, 14 die and 2 injured.
  • September 2, 2009 – A Riga – Daugavpils train near Livani is struck by a "Volvo" excavator. 1 person dies, 3 are injured. The driver of the excavator was drunk and did not see the train.
  • September 16, 2009, at 3pm a red line Luas tram and a double-decker number 16 Dublin Bus collided at the intersection of Abbey Street and O'Connell Street in Dublin city centre. The front section of the tram was derailed in the incident and the driver's cabin was crushed flat against the left hand side of the bus. At least 21 people were injured and three were seriously hurt, including the driver of the tram who had to be cut out from the wreckage.
  • September 21, 2009 – A passenger train derails after leaving Craiova station at a speed of about 100 km/h, injuring 16. Investigators suspect sabotage.
  • September 21, 2009 – A truck loaded with bricks is struck by a locomotive near Gura Ocniţei, Dâmboviţa County. The truck driver did not see the train coming. No injuries.
  • September 21, 2009 – A freight train loaded with diesel derails near Boju, Cluj County. Investigators suspect that the two locomotives of the train (one pulling, one pushing) are not synchronized in speed. Fuel leaks from the derailed cars. No injuries.
  • December 20, 2009 – A Paris RER train hits a concrete block and derails at Choisy-le-Roi, in the southern region of Paris, causing 17 injuries.

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