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Style of writing[edit]

MacDiarmid did not write in "anglicised Scots", he wrote in "literary Lowland Scots". It has sometimes been termed "plastic [Lowland] Scots" or "artificial [Lowland] Scots", but I don't think it can be called "anglicised", since it is a deliberate attempt to get away from anglicisation, and HM said so himself. 14 November 2004‎ 146.176.61.61 (talk)‎

Isn't Lowland Scots an Anglian thing to begin with? 23 January 2006‎ MacRusgail

Scots is actually older in origins than English, although yes it does have its origins in the Angles. To use 'Anglicised' thought would probably create a degree of confusion between that race of people (whose territory stretched far into Scotland) and the present day England. 14 April 2006‎ 82.41.100.129

Here's an extract from the Wiki page on Lallans: The term Lallans was also used during the Scottish Renaissance of the early 20th century to refer to what Hugh MacDiarmid called synthetic Scots, i.e., a synthesis integrating, blending, and combining various forms of the Scots language, both vernacular and archaic. This was intended as a classical, standard Scots for a world-class literature, although it was more often than not Scots words grafted on to a standard English grammatical structure somewhat removed from traditional spoken Scots, its main practitioners not being habitual Lowland Scots speakers themselves.

"In addition, the present century has seen the conscious creation of a ‘mainstream’ variety of Scots—a standard literary variety, [...] referred to as ‘synthetic Scots’, now generally goes under the name Lallans (=‘Lowlands’). [...] In its grammar and spelling, it shows the marked influence of Standard English, more so than other Scots dialects."[6] MacDiarmid's detractors often referred to it as plastic Scots. Cassandra — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.106.104 (talk) 16:38, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hugh was my great granny’s cousin. It was always said within the family he wrote in ‘Lallans’. 51.19.246.50 (talk) 22:14, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Parties[edit]

This article gives the impression that he was in the NPS and CPGB at the same time, which I don't believe was the case. But it is true that he was expelled from both. --MacRusgail 18:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Date of death[edit]

The ODNB has HM's date of death as 9 September 1978. Dsp13 11:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well spotted. I correct the death date, then noted that the birth date, and even MacDiarmid's real name, were wrong! It seems that Someone on 81.156.30.154 changed a lot of details in the article, as a subtle form of vandalism: the diff can be seen here. I've changed everything back, and will keep a closer eye on the article in future. --Jim (Talk) 11:51, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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