Talk:Emo

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]]Emo was shaped by other music genres, such as post hardcore, heavy metal, and grunge. Although bands such as Nirvana and Weezer aren't emo, they did help shape what emo is today.

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Capitalization of the article "The" in musical band names

Hello,

I recently came across the Wikipedia page for "Emo", a style of music: , and I noticed in the very first paragraph that the article "the" is not capitalized for the bands "The Promise Ring" and "The Get Up Kids". I have made edits to capitalize the article "the", but it keeps getting reverted by user @Issan Sumisu. I have provided multiple explanations as to why I believe my edit is correct; however, this does not satisfy user @Issan Sumisu. Is it possible to get someone outside the two of us, who could resolve this editing dispute?

My arguments and sources for the edits include:

1) The Wikipedia Manual of Style was cited by @Issan Sumisu. However, using the same MOS: THEMUSIC, in the example "She released a cover version of 'A Brand New Day' from The Wiz.", the article "the" in the artist's name "The Wiz" is kept capitalized.

2) The band names were previously made as links to their Wikipedia article pages, and thus, are titles of not just the band name, but also their respective Wikipedia article pages. If the band names were not made in to links, or at least the word "the" was not included as part of the link, this could be analyzed differently.

3) The same Wikipedia page for "Emo" in the subsection "Fashion and subculture" - - provides a list of band names with the article "the" capitalized, such as "The Used", "The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus", and "The All-American Rejects". Therefore, capitalizing the article "the" for the band names listed in the beginning paragraph of the "Emo" Wikipedia article provides a manner of consistency.

4) In the Wikipedia "Naming Conventions" page: , the article "the" in the band names can certainly fit the category of "definite article", as explained in section "Names of groups, sports teams and companies".

5) The official Twitter page for "The Promise Ring" - - shows in the Twitter page description, that the band also considers the article "the" a definite article, and thus, capitalizes it: "The official twitter feed of the band, The Promise Ring."

Ace theMaster (talk) 14:02, 31 May 2022 (UTC) Ace_theMaster

References

MOS:THEMUSIC says explicitly to not capitalise the definite article at the beginning of a band name when used mid-sentence. The Wiz is used an example because it isn't a band name, it's a musical. MOS:THEMUSIC says that titles (of musicals, albums, songs, etc) should capitalise the definite article, which is why that's mentioned. Furthermore, Wikipedia:Naming conventions (definite or indefinite article at beginning of name) as you cited it, isn't about mid-sentence definite article capitalisation, it's about whether to include the definite article in article titles. This isn't relevant because we are including the definite article, the discussion is whether to capitalise it. I don't have much of an opinion on this honestly, I'm just trying to keep to the manual of style for consistency across the site. MOS:MUSIC has its own talk page, as that is is the route of this rule, you'd be more likely to get such a site-wide change there, rather than on a fairly obscure genre page (in the grand scheme of things at least). Issan Sumisu (talk) 15:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

"I'm just trying to keep to the manual of style for consistency across the site." - I can respect that. What I was trying to get at is the MOS:THEMUSIC does indeed state that the article should not be capitalized mid-sentence in a continuous prose. However, I feel like when the text starts having a list of things mid-sentence, then it breaks the continuous prose in the sentence structure. And thus, since the continuous prose is broken, I think that the articles should be capitalized.

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MOS:THEMUSIC Example: Wings featured Paul McCartney from the Beatles and Denny Laine from the Moody Blues.

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Text from "Emo" article: By the mid-1990s, bands such as Braid, the Promise Ring, and the Get Up Kids emerged from the burgeoning Midwest emo scene...

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Once more, but to point out what I mean: By the mid-1990s, bands such as LIST ITEM 1, LIST ITEM 2, and LIST ITEM 3 emerged from the burgeoning Midwest emo scene...

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I feel that a list inside a sentence creates a special case that calls for the article capitalization. However, I will follow your recommendation, and pose this suggestion on the MOS:MUSIC talk page and see what kind of comments I will receive.

P.S. - Yeah, a different person pointed out earlier to me that "The Wiz" isn't a band name, but, in fact, a musical. I must have read through that example too quickly. Ace theMaster (talk) 00:41, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Typo

Under "Change to a different style", the word "although" is spelt as "althoguh." Furbyfan4lyf (talk) 21:11, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 July 2023

Elder Emo "Elder Emo" is a term of endearment granted to the emo bands that have weathered the onset of responsibilities like parenthood and other aspects of adulthood. Elder Emo intends to embrace the role of emeritus members and elder statespersons of a genre that is a little surprised by not only its own longevity and status but the sharing of adulthood with many of their fans.

Ronnie Winter of Red Jumpsuit Apparatus informed the crowd of their membership during their set in the SoWhat? music festival in Dallas 2023. IIRC.life (talk) 20:26, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Xan747 (talk) 03:03, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 July 2023

Change [[Extraversion and introversion |introversion]] to introversion as it appears improperly Lemonlite (talk) 05:22, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done ULPS (talk) 05:31, 17 July 2023 (UTC)