Talk:Age of Aquarius

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Rudolf Steiner[edit]

Rudolf Steiner has said that the Age of Aquarius will be in 3573. For him, each Age is 2160 years long. We are now in the Age of Pisces, since 1413. (read french page wikipedia for more details). In the Age of pisces, people have to develop their own individuality. In the next Age of Aquarius, people can have a spiritual brotherhood but not now. If the brotherhood comes now, the inividuality will not be strong enough for that. Rudolf Steiner has spoken about two great spiritual events : the return of Christ in etherical world (and not in a physical body), because people must develop their faculties until they can reach the etherical world; and the incarnation of Ahriman on earth. Ahriman is the spirit who has interest only with physical, mineral, intelligence and calcul. He will try to block the evolution of humanity. Vladimir Soloviev speaks too of this event. He has said that Antechrist will bring peace on earth, give food for all and makes an unique religion. The actuality is good to receive a false savior, who will use the false think that we are now in the age of aquarius.

I have seen this information before - but to in include it in this topic we need citation(s) with page numbers. Have you got a source? Terry Macro (talk) 01:38, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're both out of your minds. And it's 5373, not 3573. Everyone knows that. An age is relative correlated to the actual Y-time needed for a semi-rotatlon of the Galaxy. Get a clue.

Source : "Vivons-nous les commencements de l'Ere des Poissons" - pages : 143-155 - Author : Christian Lazaridès - Editions anthroposophiques romandes - 1989 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.220.141.251 (talk) 12:49, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

astrological ages based on precession of the equinoxes have nothing to do with the semi-rotatlon of the Galaxy Terry Macro (talk) 00:06, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It would be better to say that Christian Lazaridès said that Steiner said 3575 . . ., but even better to omit the statement. Steiner gave 3575 as the end of the consciousness soul age, which is something different. Source: From Symptom to Reality in Modern History — Symptomatology of Recent Centuries, GA 185, Lecture II,
19 October 1918, Dornach.
"It presents — in the form of slogans applied haphazardly and indiscriminately to the whole human being — that which must gradually be developed in the course of the epoch of the Consciousness Soul, from 1413 to the year 3573, with all the spiritual resources at man's disposal."
About the age of aquarius, I find two mentions. Reporting on the content of the Mystery Schools of Zarathustra, in THE SPIRITUAL HIERARCHIES, GA 110, Lecture VI, Düsseldorf, April 15, 1909:
"We know Christ came during Pisces, which began 270 B.C. Add 2150 years and" [working from Zarathustra's calculations] "we get the following: —
• 2420 B.C. as the beginning of Aries,
• 4570 B.C. as the beginning of Taurus,
• 6720 B C. as the beginning of Gemini.
Since our year 1881 we are under Aquarius."
And without an estimated year,
from a talk 3 March 1923, Dornach:
"Now we have the Vernal Point in the Fishes, as I have told you. Previously it was in the Ram, Aries. After some time it will be in Aquarius . . ." 2600:1702:3650:2650:4C90:58BC:65B8:544D (talk) 20:46, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Old Comments[edit]

The section entitled The Age of Aquarius according to Spiritual astrology does not seem to fit with the rest of the article. It repeats content given earlier and seems to be a promotion of a particular society. I suggest the section is removed. Any thoughts to the contrary? Arcturus 23:18, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)


I have rewrited the article combining the old texts. Hope it is fine. English is not my mothertongue so it is possible some sentences might not be so clear as I intended. The section entitled The Age of Aquarius according to Spiritual astrology was not intended as promotion but to present notions (commonly accepted by studious astrologers) backed on one of the proeminent schools, through all 20th century, of astrology in the western countries. Calculus of Astrology are based on Astronomy motions of sun and planets, etc, which require study and lots of maths! The Astrology (Solar) Ages are based on Astrology calculus, if one does not accept Astrology there is no point for this person talking about the Age of Aquarius or any other since it only can be identified, targeted and its effects described through Astrology notions and calculus. Please see external links --GalaazV 19:01, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Previous Ages[edit]

Interestingly ages of Pisces, though two fish, brings to mind the Christian fish symbol. The age before was the age of the ram (and fire), which brings to mind the even older religions of sacrifice on the fire. Not sure if this has been gone in to in more detail.

Read Decipher (novel)! it goes into this in great detail :) mathwhiz29 05:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, of course. The whole point of the Christian fish symbol—formally, Ichthus—is the symbolism of the Piscean Age, whose Christ/Messiah is Jesus. Ichthus (Ιχθυσ) is Greek for Pisces. I suggest you to watch Zeitgeist. Before you start claiming that the film is a pile of hogwash, let me refer you to some of its documented sources; here's a link. 213.109.230.96 (talk) 08:13, 13 January 2011 (U
Islam is also a religion os Pisces. Islam is clearly full of Pisces' values, and not only Christianity.-
Agreed. In fact both Islam and Christianity correspond to the same time period (the last 1500 years) and the Piscean symbolism. Saying that the Age of Pisces is Christian is a Western bias. The symbolism of the two fish swimming in different directions fits Islamic culture as well as it does Christianity. The eastern fish 'swims' vertically upward, symbolising yearning for a spiritual relationship with God with its promise of salvation and liberation from the material world to gain the Kingdom of Heaven, yet the western fish swims horizontally representing the spread of domination in the material realm as these civilisations competed for supremacy and invaded foreign lands and converted cultures to their respective religions. Basically they both did the same thing and it is pointless to separate them.
The Age of Aquarius, as represented by such organisations as the supposedly altruistic non-sectarian United Nations reflects the growth of globalisation and the blurring of distinction between separate cultures so that they share many similar aspects. However there is another side to Aquarius - unconventional rebellion and a refusal to conform. Some nations seem to fit into this 'mould', what may be considered the more 'difficult' countries in the UN like China and Iran. Concepts like the World Bank, IMF, WEF and The Great Reset are typical of the Aquarian spirit. Indeed it is entirely possible that religion, often viewed as a source of conflict and war, could be banished by the UN at some point in the distant future.. but that is pure speculation. Nevertheless it's a very Aquarian concept.
But, because the world is currently very much dominated by Christianity and Islam, it should be quite obvious that we are still in the Age of Pisces (if such a thing exists) and the Age of Aquarius is just a fanciful wish for the time being. Wokepedian (talk) 10:33, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Neither Judaism nor Greek or Roman paganism disappeared immediately upon the birth of Christ. Paganism took hundreds of years to disappear and then only went underground due to laws against it. Judaism is still with us. Your argument is not a valid one. Nowhere does anyone say that the slate is wiped clean before each Age. Skyerise (talk) 13:12, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with still being in the age of Pisces, the Bible says "And He said to them, “Behold, when you have entered the city, a man will meet you carrying a pitcher of water; follow him into the house which he enters". I don't think the Age Of Aquarius will begin till about 2100-2150, the age of Taurus ended with the smashing of a Golden Bull, while people blew on Ram's horns, the age of Aries ended with the beginning of Christianity, and the symbol of Ichthus (The Fish). I don't think it means that the prior Age's religion will be no more, it's more so that it will be updated. I suspect the Age of Aquarius, assuming humanity lasts that long will have to deal a lot with potential Water Shortages in the 22nd Century. 71.9.141.71 (talk) 18:30, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]