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I don’t think Ballard or [Thomas] Chapman started their relationship in 1967. I think it was 1965 because I saw a photo of them holding hands together outside Florence's house in Detroit. It was on Facebook or somewhere else.TheGreatestLuvofAll (talk) 00:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Solo pic[edit]

Any objections to giving the lovely Ms. Ballard her own picture? Since she was a solo artist as well as a group singer, I think she deserves her own. Also, I added the info about Ballad's rape because I'm sure it was a contributing factor to the sadness that led to her eventual alcoholism; plus, I think it's noteworthy that she stood up for herself, pressed charges, and got to see her attacker go to prison (especially in the '60s!). PennyGWoods 15:34, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also think she deserves her own picture. I'm working on reading through the guidelines for making sure that ones I think might look nice are legally suitable, or whatever. Cometrally (talk) 17:08, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ballard's rapist was killed while in prison; thus, Ballard was most fortunate to have identified her rapist, have him charged, imprisoned and eventually, killed. She lived long enough to receive justice. Spenser - The Unknown (talk) 22:01, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It was already stated by Wilson, Ross and Gordy that Ballard's rape was most definitely contributory to her unsettledness as a human being. The emphasis on Ross only aggregated her unsettled mind. Spenser - The Unknown (talk) 22:03, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also her rapist was Reggie Harding, an basketball player. I knew he had multiple crimes that he committed everywhere; such as like robbery, death threats, and getting arrested 11 times. He also was being disrespectful to a funeral director at his mother's funeral. What I also know is that Ballard was with her brother at the time of the rape; they had gotten lost when Ballard was supposed to perform at a sock hop (I read somewhere). He took her to a parking lot on Woodward Av. in Detroit and raped her at knifepoint. This was the cause of Ballard's demise after and later told Ross and Wilson about it.

Chapman[edit]

The only husband Ballard has was Thomas Chapman. --b. Touch 05:28, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Ballard married only once. It was Mary Wells who married Cecil Womack.

Motown[edit]

This article should not be in the "Motown performers" category. Ballard never had a solo deal with Motown. Please do not add it back. --b. Touch 02:00, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

What does solo have to do with it? She worked for Motown, correct? Jake b 16:48, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Duplication[edit]

In the solo career section, two paragraphs were listed twice, I have removed them.66.177.3.102 05:07, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ballard's version of "People" is, indeed. an embarrassment. She is singing to be heard not listened to. She was known to deliberately sing either too loudly or deliberately off key. Hence, her microphone was either down or she was made to stand feet away. If you listen to The Supremes singing with Bobby Darin, it is painfully clear that Ballard is deliberately singing too loudly and so Ross - being competitiveness - tries out out-sing her. Spenser - The Unknown (talk) 22:07, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There needs to be clairification about why Ross was given Ballard's solo "People." Ballard complained to Gordy in early 1965 that singing "People" was hurting her throat. Therefore, Gordy gave it to Ross. This was not Ross' doing, and it is unfair to somehow ascribe this solo switch to Ross. It was Gordy's idea; not Ross' idea. This is in the Public Domain, and therefore, accessible to anyone who questions what I inserted.

Actually, there is discrepancy there; the situation is not as clear-cut as you say it is. Florence's having a sore throat had something to do with the switch, but is it known what exactly? I have heard that she did not tell Gordy the song itself was making her throat hurt, but that she was sick with the flu at the time, or simply that at this particular engagement at which they were slated to sing the song her throat hurt for whatever reason.

If you listen to Ballard's version of "People," she kills the song. The song is clearly out of her range...either because she is singing it at the top of her range, or the arrangement is unsuitable? I've heard her sing "People" and let me say, it should never have been made available. It is an embarrassment. Her version is on the box set. Her version isn't good and it is only because of revisionism that anyone pays her version any attention.

Editing without proof[edit]

If People are going to change things in this artical then they need to start showing proof to back up their claims as in a link, or a source. I don't believe that it is acceptable to write under a photo that Flo looks sad because she lost her home?

I do agree that using that pic as an example of Flo's depression is someone making a personal statement about Flo. However, there are insertions into Flo's Bio that are in the "Public Domain" that are accessible to the general public...such as "Call Her Miss Ross," and "All That Glittered." If someone would read the insertions, one would know that no one is making up these assertions.

To whom it may concern: if something is inserted from "Public Domain," it does not need to be cited. I think the issue is that "whomever" does not understand the meaning of "Public Domain"?

Yes, for it to be included in a Wikipedia article, it DOES need to be cited, whether or not the source is Public Domain. MM 207.69.137.6 (talk) 16:05, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia standards[edit]

This website states--quite clearly--that if the information is gathered from "Public Domain," it does not need to be cited.

You are -- quite clearly -- wrong. MM 207.69.137.6 (talk) 16:06, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

True, but I think that editor's long gone [1]. Yappy2bhere (talk) 00:14, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If, in fact, it is clearly stated within "The Public Domain" and thus, mainstream, it needs to be stated not necessarily cited. Spenser - The Unknown (talk) 22:09, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Florence Ballard - The Supreme.jpg[edit]

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Yet another "biased" Motown article[edit]

Another unnecessarily exhaustive discography on an artist that, unfortunately, had little to no solo success. Even more than the discography on Mary Wilson's page, this reads more like one that you might find for an artist like Elvis Presley or The Beatles. The article is also ridden with the usual opinions, speculations and lack of citations that usually swirl around The Supremes. This one is a good example:

From that point, Detroiters saw Diana Ross' relationship with Berry Gordy as the primary reason for florence's decline. In fact, according to Ballard's daughters, Diana had stated that she was going to see to it that Flo's children would receive royalty payments after Flo's death. According to Flo's children, these payments never came through. This added to tensions between the remaining Supremes and Berry Gordy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missthingeastcoast (talk • contribs) 01:31, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've been meaning to make it smaller than it is. Other than the Supremes story, it's not really that much interesting. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 04:11, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]