Talk:South Yorkshire

still exists

It is popularly considered a county, although it now technically isn't.

As things stand there are no intermediate divisions of Yorkshire on an official level

These things may be true from an administrative point of view, but South Yorkshire still exists as a "ceremonial" county - there is a Lord Lieutenant of South Yorkshire ( http://www.lordlt.org.uk/ ) and also a High Sheriff. There are also some governmental functions that are run at the South Yorks level despite the abolition of the county council - South Yorks Police, SYPTE, Fire & Rescue... --rbrwr

The page states: "South Yorkshire County Council was abolished in 1986, and so its districts (the metropolitan boroughs) are now effectively unitary authority areas;", which is undoubtedly true since the county council was abolished under the Local Government Act 1985 and this came into effect on 31 March 1986. It is also true that the Ceremonial County continues to exist, with the offices of Lord Lieutenant and Sheriff continuing as they have since the formation of the Metropolitan County in 1974. However, the wording goes on to suggest that the Metropolitan County continues, which it obviously cannot since it was the subject of the abolition. It is true that there are legacy arrangements that continue to govern and manage specific aspects of the old County Council's remit, including the Emergency Services, but these come under headings of 'Special Joint Arrangements','Joint Boards, or Secretariats' and others such as in South Yorkshire's case, the Joint Local Transport Plan. I would argue that the page currently creates ambiguity and needs to be re-written for clarity and accuracy.Moonraker55 (talk) 16:22, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

History of the term

Does anyone hava anything on the use of South Yorkshire before 1972? I know there was a 616 (South Yorkshire) Squadron, based at Doncaster airfield during the Battle of Britain. This predates the 1972 Local Government Act by several decades. 194.203.110.127 15:56, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

There used to be a daytime soap opera called "South Riding". I barely remember it, but I wish I could remember if it was mentioned any real towns or villages in South Yorkshire. I bet it was based in the Dales (and perhaps Leeds) though,

The South Riding was Holderness. It was based on a really old novel. Epa101 17:21, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Population figures

Can we have a citation for the lists of population figures? One would hope they are from the 2001 census but it would be prudent to cite a source. MRSC 13:51, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Practically in the Midlands

All I can say, Funny as, lol!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.11.18.231 (talk) 22:51, 10 February 2007 (UTC).

All I can say is, funny as you find it funny as lol!!!. South Yorkshire is in the Midlands. If you measure England from North to South and split it equally into three you will find that Leeds, Manchester, Sheffield etc. all fall into the de facto Midland region. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.116.235 (talk) 00:49, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

I know its your opinion but no matter how you perceive it as such, most people in England would still consider Sheffield and the rest of South Yorkshire to be in Northern England (except maybe a few living closer to the Scottish border) and the same applies for Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool. I would suggest you read the definitions/extent sections carefully in the Northern England/Midlands (along with the North Midlands article) articles because they explain this matter in more detail and have some detail which would support your opinion but stating South Yorkshire is in the Midlands in the lead here would be very misleading, and this is a matter best left covered by an extent/definitions section like the ones in the examples I've provided. Broman178 (talk) 12:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

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Creswell Crags are not in South Yorkshire

The very first paragraph on the history of South Yorkshire talks of prehistoric artifacts discovered at Creswell Crags... which are in Derbyshire, not South Yorkshire. Obviously, cavemen didn't make the same boundary distinctions as us, and evidence of their presence to the East of Chesterfield in Bolsover suggests their presence in 'the north' as a whole, but nothing specifically pertaining to the history of "South Yorkshire". Basically though, it just seems odd beginning the history of an area by discussing the pre-history of a neighbouring area, without putting it into some kind of context (at the very least, it should be stated Creswell Crags are in Derbyshire - at the moment the assumption from the article is that they are in South Yorkshire - and I'd expect an explanation as to how that relates to South Yorkshire's history.) 86.153.224.158 (talk) 14:36, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

You're right; I've amended the paragraph accordingly (I did wonder about just deleting it, however as you suggest, Creswell Crags are only about 3 miles from South Yorkshire, and it therefore seemed appropriate to mention it, albeit in context). PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 17:52, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

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The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:South Yorkshire/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

. Lists need trimming to essentials rest in sub articles. Inline references required using one of the {{Cite}} templates More detail on the georgaphy of the area Details of transport infrastructure More details on sports/culture of area Relevant photographs List of attractions has problems over icons as some entries in key appear not to have one. Keith D 12:41, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

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"Settlement" Criteria

What does a location inhabited by people living in Yorkshire require to be considered a settlement? Must it have a minimum population? Arksey, Almholme, and Shaftholme are all very small villages in the Doncaster borough and are not listed. Should they be considered settlements? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.175.94.213 (talk) 01:18, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Arksey has a population of over 1,000. Almholme has a population under 100. Both are small settlements, though they have very different populations. Auckley, which is listed on the main page, has a population of approximately 4,000. I propose that all settlements listed in the settlements section should have a population of or above 1,000. I will not act upon my proposal until a consensus has been reached. This is a petty topic, but I believe it is one worth addressing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.175.94.213 (talk) 21:30, 5 December 2020 (UTC)