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Coordinates and Redirect-multi template[edit]

These two seem to clash on this article, with the template's content overwriting the coordinates.
Could likely be fixed by limiting max-width for the template.
2A04:4540:6516:900:308E:4E24:BE85:707A (talk) 03:46, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Names Footnote[edit]

The reference to "other names" can be done in one of two ways. One way is constructive and non-confrontational. The other way is in your face. At Kyiv there is a simple footnote that directs the reader to other names used for the city and the history of the city's names. All the reader confronts is a simple superscripted footnote letter. At Lviv certain editors want to put up a billboard with a statement in text that "there are other names". The former is preferable in Wikipedia for two reasons. First, alternate names are not the point of the article and should not be highlighted as if they are more important than the fact that X city is the seat of X oblast, etc. Second, Wikipedia names articles based on the most common form used in English. That form should be highlighted to the exclusion of any other forms for the sake of readability and reducing confusion. All other forms of name, historical and otherwise, should be relegated to the Names section where they can be discussed thoroughly and fairly. Highlighting the fact that "Lviv isn't the only name" before saying anything else about Lviv is unfair to the rest of the content in the lead that is far more important than the fact that Poles and Russian don't like to call the place "Lviv". TaivoLinguist (Taivo) (talk) 00:42, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  1. I would kindly ask you to stop using condescending language.
  2. Having a 30-byte text in parentheses cannot obstruct readability at all.
  3. We have a notable precedent of using this style: Sea of Japan. Is this not enough for you?
Summer talk 04:31, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Typically, we try to maintain consistency within particular areas. Sea of Japan is irrelevant to the issues surrounding placenames in Ukraine. Different languages, different histories, different political pressures. Kyiv is far more relevant to Lviv than the Sea of Japan. The chances of a reader jumping from Lviv to Sea of Japan are zero, but the chances of jumping from Lviv to Kyiv or Odesa or Rivne are quite high. Other options include the way the matter is handled at Odesa where there isn't even a reference to the Names section. As at Kyiv, the 30-byte critique is invalid. --TaivoLinguist (Taivo) (talk) 11:54, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of World Heritage in Danger[edit]

Hello, I'm here to propose the same type of change as for the Kyiv page. The ensemble of the historic centre was inscribed to the list of world heritage in danger:

In September 2023, the UNESCO World Heritage Committee added the ensemble of the historic centre of Lviv to the List of World Heritage in Danger.1 The Committee considered that «optimal conditions are no longer met to fully guarantee the protection of the Outstanding Universal Value of the property and that it is threatened by potential danger due to the war ».2 The aim is to deter Russian bombing and mobilize international support for the conservation of the sites.3

  1. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/16/unesco-world-heritage-ukraine-kyiv-lviv-photos/
  2. https://www.unesco.org/en/articles/ukraine-unesco-sites-kyiv-and-lviv-are-inscribed-list-world-heritage-danger
  3. https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2023/09/15/unesco-adds-kyiv-lviv-sites-world-heritage-danger

E.poul (talk) 09:33, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]