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Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2023[edit]

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The date of death is before birth and clearly an error as well as his age of death is wrong. Please correct. 78.100.165.71 (talk) 10:27, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:34, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Editing request - Istruments or ensembles for which Brahms composed[edit]

The sentence: "Brahms composed for symphony orchestra, chamber ensembles, piano, organ, violin, voice, and chorus" should be edited to include cello. Brahms made a double concerto for violin and cello and two cello sonatas. He wrote also a solo part for cello in the slow movement of his 2nd piano concerto. All in all the pages that Brhams wrote for cello are true masterpieces. 2A0E:41B:7E11:0:3832:F32:5181:6270 (talk) 12:30, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concertos are works for symphony orchestra; chamber ensembles include any instruments that could be considered a normative part of chamber music (which include cellos, among other instruments). If a reader has additional questions, they can go to the link that lists all the works composed by Brahms. - kosboot (talk) 13:32, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply.

What you say applies also to violin, as there is no composition for violin solo. With cello, clarinet is also missing, for instance.

All in all, as it is, the sentence is badly stated, misleading and, ultimately, wrong.

So instead of stating arbitrarily some of the instruments and the ensembles it would be a better option to name the different types of compositions: symphonies and concertos, trios quartets and quintets, lieder and choral works and compositions for piano and organ solo.

Last but not least, the summary should represent a synthesis. A summary that is lacking information and gives a misleading view of what it tries to synthesise is a bad summary. 89.184.118.3 (talk) 09:13, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's helpful in a summary to list all the specific genres of chamber music so I eliminated the violin. "Chamber ensembles" now includes all the chamber music that Brahms wrote. - kosboot (talk) 13:02, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2023[edit]

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Just a short note. The word "Bram" is not German and it doesn't mean shrub broom, in German of any region. Please do remove that strange and highly inaccurate information because it is not only misleading but also quite ridiculous. Best regards Prof Dr Agarwal Mirendra 89.151.35.29 (talk) 00:01, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Callme mirela 🍁 00:40, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The topic is also already discussed above [1]:

"The family name, indifferently spelled Brahms or Brahmst or Brams, identified them as Lower Saxon, speakers of Plattdeutsch, the Low German drawl. Their name comes from the broom plant, Planta genista, called Bram"

73.93.5.246 (talk) 00:47, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2023[edit]

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This is a factual correction of an obvious error.

In the Johannes Brahms article his house in Lichtental, Austria is wrongly said to be part of Baden-Baden in Germany. The Wikipedia entry for Lichtental says "Lichtental is a part of the district of Alsergrund, Vienna. It was an independent municipality until 1850." There has probably been a confusion between the cities of Baden in Austria (about 20 miles to the south of Vienna) and Baden-Baden in Germany (hundreds of miles away). However, in any event the German language version of the article on Lichtental does not mention Baden. It is also possible that there has been a confusion between Brahms and Beethoven (who did live in Baden, Austria for a time)

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The mention and link to Baden-Baden should be removed. It could be replaced with a mention of Baden bei Wien, whose Wikipedia page is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baden_bei_Wien 90.89.76.18 (talk) 12:12, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Removed. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:09, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Age discrepancies[edit]

The article says he was born in 1833 and married in 1830 2603:6011:380A:1300:AC04:4601:7F9B:AC92 (talk) 14:14, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, it says his parents were married in 1830. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:48, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]