Talk:Yugoslav Wars

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Often described as Europe's deadliest armed conflict since World War II[edit]

before Russian invasion of ukraine Lolipopm1995 (talk) 10:49, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox bloat[edit]

@Overthrow-dictator: The main purpose of an WP:Infobox is to quickly summarize information from the article body, not to become a copy of the article: The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance. Of necessity, some infoboxes contain more than just a few fields; however, wherever possible, present information in short form, and exclude any unnecessary content.

As evidenced by the sheer size of this one (it takes two screenfuls to scroll on my large monitor), this one is way overblown. This article is about a historical period that included four or five independent (but related) armed conflicts, each with different belligerents, each having a separate article of its own (and presumably an infobox). This article is not about a single battle or war, but a summary of a historical period; it does not need an infobox at all. Yet some editors love infoboxes so much, presumably because they represent the complicated and messy nature of the world we live in in convenient, boxy format.

Having three groups of belligerents in the infobox (in, like, five different conflicts) is not supported by sources; it is WP:Original research and inappropriate WP:SYNTH of ten years worth of conflicts. Same goes for an endless list of "commanders". This is all amateurish bloat that hinders navigation and mischaracterizes the nature of the conflicts. Readers that need that summary will have to resort on reading the lead section. But this one must go. No such user (talk) 12:27, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be said that if anyone tries to use infoboxes as an end run around verifiability policies bears the risk of being prevented from editing. Copying and pasting old references with cleanup tags like in [1] signals either WP:CIR or WP:EVASION issues. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 15:51, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Overthrow-dictator continued to revert without using anything resembling collaborative editing, so I've issued a temporary block in an attempt to get them to reconsider this behavior. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 21:00, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Name of article[edit]

"Yugoslav Wars" is very misleading. The whole point was to be free from the name "Yugoslav", so it could be interpreted as insulting to call it that. "Yugoslav aggression" fits much better, after all the serbians wanted everyone else to call themself "Yugoslav" so they can rename them all into "Serbian" with time. The serbians were the only ones fighting for "Yugoslav". 188.252.196.139 (talk) 02:47, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know what yugoslav means?
It means south slavs
South slavs are the Bosnians, Albanians, Serbians, Croatians, Macedonians, Slovenians, and Montenegrin.
in other words, Yugoslavs. 142.54.9.83 (talk) 15:46, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Intro and title[edit]

"Yugoslavia's constituent republics declared independence due to unresolved tensions between ethnic minorities in the new countries" -> This came about because serbs have been preaching greater serbia ideology disguised as yugoslavia for 100+ years before the nineties(a big number of them still do). Hence the killing of Stjepan Radić, Croatian Spring, and so on..

This would be more accurate -> "Yugoslavia's constituent republics declared independence to finally escape serbian hegemony put in place by the serb controlled SFRY government and the serbs now finding themselves an ethinc minority, started a number of uprisings(for example see "balvan revolution") in the modern countries. Remember, all those countries existed long before any yugoslavia, so while they are "new", they aren't actually "new new", "modern countries" is a better way of puting it)".

To have "Yugoslav Wars" you need to have Yugoslavs, the whole point was that people didn't want to be Yugoslavs. The article name is misinterpreting the whole war. "SFRY Wars", "Serbian hegemony Wars", "Serbian aggresion" are all more accurate. 188.252.196.178 (talk) 13:14, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

i disagree, the yugoslav spirt remains strong. the war was caused by serbian nationalism and other nationalisms like croatian and bosnian. not calling it the yugoslav wars is a misrepresentation 142.54.9.83 (talk) 15:22, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I feel like you might be a little biased? 142.54.9.83 (talk) 15:47, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]