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Did Ujjal Dosanjh change from NDP to Liberal in 2004? --Menchi 03:41, 23 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Crossing the floor" generally means you were elected under one party's banner, and you've changed affiliations while in office. Dosanjh was an NDP MLA in BC, then after being out of office, decided to run for a seat as a federal Liberal. So that's not "crossing the floor" --65.92.71.217 22:35, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I dunno if I'd put Scott Brison on this list. Technically, yes, he did leave the PC's for the Liberals, but in reality the PCs didnt exist anymore, and he chose not to sit with the new party. If you are going to include Brison, shouldn't Joe Clark, and the others who didn't sit with the new Conservatives, be listed as Progessive Conservative to Independant?

Seems like this page could be easily fixed up using the linked page at [1] and through searching existing Canadian politician pages for more information where possible. I'm happy to volunteer to go through and get the list improved over the next week or two. Particularly important given the current political climate! Forthright 17:37, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the wikilinks for dates, except for the section headings. The page was becoming very cluttered with unnecessary wikilinks and so, following the manual of style, I've decided to remove them. Forthright 19:09, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal[edit]

I'm against merging this article with List of Canadian politicians who have switched parties. The latter will be much, much longer, since there are far more politicians not in Parliament then there are in Parliament. MPs who cross the floor are far more notable than some random Joe Shmoe who switches from the People's Front of Judea to the Judean People's Front. —Psychonaut 22:12, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Having a timeline makes sense so I'd support keeping this article. There are many more MPs to be added, see Members of the House of Commons who Crossed the Floor of the House of Commons or who Changed Parties for a full list. Sixth Estate 15:44, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Floor crossing.[edit]

Crossing the floor is specifically when an individual who belongs to one caucus leaves that caucus to immediately join another. You can't have the main floor crossing article say one thing, and then apply a different standard to this article. It doesn't make sense.

For example: Joe Comuzzi and Garth Turner are NOT floor crossers. They were ejected by force from caucus by their leaders. They then spent several months as independents. After being courted by another party, then then joined their current caucuses. That is not crossing the floor in any way.

Belinda Stronach and Wajid Khan ARE floor crossers. They were unsatisfied with their current caucuses and decided to join another caucus.Sima Yi 23:35, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jean Charest[edit]

Jean Charest should not be listed here. Just as the Progressive Conservative Party had no affiliated provincial party, the Liberal Party of Quebec is not affiliated with any federal party. Same thing when Kim Campbell of the Social Credit Party of British Columbia joined the PCs. The Four Deuces (talk) 09:40, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the reference. The Four Deuces (talk) 00:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bruce Hyer[edit]

I am not sure what the stated revert reason was supposed to mean, but "crossing the floor" does not mean you have to physically move from a seat on one side of the chamber to a seat on the other side, and several other politicians who quit their caucus to sit as independents are listed. - Montréalais (talk) 13:41, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're saying that every party affiliation change should be listed? Even a member becoming an independent. 117Avenue (talk) 01:08, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, yes. That's the subject of the article: politicians who decide to change their party affiliation while sitting as a member of a legislature. At the very least there should be consistency (include everyone who decides to become an independent, or no one, but not some). - Montréalais (talk) 03:57, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I feel those changing to an independent shouldn't be included here. They have not changed affiliation in the same way as those who moved from one party to another.Skhistory (talk) 02:59, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of Crossing the Floor[edit]

This article seems to use the wrong definition of Crossing the floor. Per that article, In the United Kingdom and Canada, crossing the floor means leaving one's party entirely and joining another caucus. The next sentence of that article says something confusing about "clear" independents though (which seems to contradict the sentence that precedes it). Others above, seem to have mentioned this over the years. Being ejected from a caucus or resigning in usual Canadian parlance is not referred to as crossing the floor, in my experience. I note this list names countless MPs whom have left their party for one reason or another to become independents. Anyway, some food for thought.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 01:49, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]