Talk:John Bellingham

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A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the On this day section on May 11, 2005, May 11, 2006, May 11, 2007, and May 11, 2008.

Old Bailey[edit]

Perhaps it might be an idea to include a link to the Old Bailey online case? http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/html_units/1810s/t18120513-5.html

Soyuz[edit]

Is there a good authority for the fact that the Russian ship was called Soyuz? This means Union in Russian, it was the first S in SSSR (CCCP in Cyrillic) Russian for USSR, so this seems anachronistic. It was the name of a well-known type of Russian spacecraft, but maybe it was just an odd coincidence. PatGallacher 11:59, 2005 May 14 (UTC)

The BBC Cambridgeshire website on Bellingham (he was born and raised in St Neots in Cambridgeshire), states the ship was called Soluere, as opposed to Soyuz. Is it possible that the was an error in translation to Soyuz? --'s-Gravenhage 19:27, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

St. Neots[edit]

P.S. Where was this information gathered? Many sources, as well as local common knowledge stipulates that Bellingham was born and raised in St Neots, Cambridgeshire in 1776 (as demonstrated by a striking painting in a local bookshop of the assassination). Is it possible that a mistake has occured, or has this fact been omitted for a reason? --'s-Gravenhage 19:33, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

C.F. Tebbit's authority on St. Neots (St. Neots), states John Bellingham's father (also called John), was a limner from London. His son was born and raised in St. Neots, as opposed to London, as stated in the article. --'s-Gravenhage 3 July 2005 12:25 (UTC)

Sane[edit]

The Old Bailey transcript clearly shows that the trial judge discounted evidence of insanity put forward by various witnesses.80.229.220.14 14:33, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dates[edit]

If he was tried on Friday May 13th, how could he be hanged on Monday May 18th?--86.130.146.221 11:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Should be Wednesday 13th. Fys. Ta fys aym. 23:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Family changed surname afterwards[edit]

Regarding the comment, "It is believed after this the family changed its name to Bellingall as he brought shame to the family.“　Is the person who wrote this comment able to elaborate? As a member of the Bellingall family who was unaware of the connection, I would be interested in understanding the link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.81.144.20 (talk) 13:28, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Responsibility[edit]

From reading the article, I don't understand why he thought that Perceval, or the British government, was responsible for his imprisonment. Why should he expect the government to compensate him? I don't see how they were responsible for his imprisonment. BillMasen (talk) 01:18, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John and Henry Bellingham[edit]

Henry Bellingham isn't a direct descendent of this John Bellingham. In the BBC report in the footnote this is what it says: "Henry Bellingham is not sure precisely how he and Perceval's murderer are related, but there was some connection at least four generations back with John's branch of the family." Henry Bellingham's family is quite well-to-do and can be traced back in Burke's Peerage. He has an 18th century ancestor called John Bellingham but it definitely is not the assassin (different date of birth, different wife, different children, etc). Perhaps John Bellingham who assassinated Spencer Perceval was a distant cousin of Henry Bellingham's ancestor.Southdevonian (talk) 21:55, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Introductory Paragraph[edit]

Strictly speaking, since we do not know how future history will unfold, the second sentence of the introductory paragraph should have the words "to date" added, either at the beginning or the end of that sentence. Douglasson (talk) 19:33, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]