Talk:Boredom

Does this statement make sense?

In positive psychology, anxiety is described as a response to a moderate challenge for which the subject has more than enough skill.[3] I feel as if the sentence intended to have the word boredom in place of anxiety. 146.145.46.34 (talk) 16:27, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Ennui and Boredom are not synonomous

Ennui is not just boredom. Ennui is a malaise that's created by a sense of meaninglessness in the world; someone is said to suffer from Ennui if they question the use of any action in the world. The typical statement too. You can be bored and not be suffering from ennui. Boredom by itself may mean simply not having anything to do, or being tired of the available options. Ennui suggests a larger existential crisis. Freddie deBoer 18:57, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Fully agree. Boredom is to temporary depression (feeling "blue" for an hour or a day) as Ennui is to long-term/clinical depression. The two are not synonymous. I'm changing it.

Changed redirect for Ennui (to boredom) and wrote a "new" article; added etymology and explained the difference between the two. Stoa 00:37, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

• The picture adds nothing to the article, so I've removed it. It simply looks like a sleeping girl in a photo studio. And the caption was simply bizarre - "modern" children?? Palefire 15:38, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

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I am currently writing a paper on boredom. I agree that boredom is a very important philosophical topic especially since much of normal lives consists of periods of time marked by inactivity (where inactivity is defined as moments that we do not take distinct note of). This article does go some analysis of the concept of boredom but i believe there is a whole lot more that can be expanded upon in this article. So much of our culture in this generation and the last has resulted from the sheer lack of stimuli. You might even be able to go so far as to say that all of our life we are trying to avert boredom by finding activities, causes, hobbies etc. that allow us to consume me because I’m Katy perry and I cheat on all my boyfriends in what otherwise be a quite mundane and primitive existence. I figure I might as well contribute at some point as well if I have the time and research opportunity.

In French "ennui" means exactly "boredom". However, "ennui" has another meaning. It describes problems one may experience in life: "ennuis de santé"="medical problems", "ennuis financiers"="financial problems", etc... Usually, "ennui" refers to problems that are not too important. The verb "ennuyer" means "to annoy". So, "tu m'ennuies" means either "you annoy me" or "you bore me". I think the etymology is the same as that "noxious" (="nuisible" in French). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.72.92.4 (talk) 21:46, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

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Ennui is not the same as boredom, though their meanings are similar. Ennui deserves its own article if you ask me. I think it is usually implies a more severe condition than boredom.

"From the Old French verb a noun meaning "worry, boredom" was derived, which became ennui in modern French." <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ennui>

"Definition of ennui noun [mass noun] a feeling of listlessness and dissatisfaction arising from a lack of occupation or excitement: 'he succumbed to ennui and despair' " <http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/ennui>

Mal du siècle and Boredom are not synonymous

I'm unsure why it has been proposed that mal du siècle and boredom be merged. Mal du siècle is quite specific, historically and nationally speaking, in terms of literaure and culture. It was a major theme of the Romantic movement in literature, particularly in France and England. Perhaps it was because the mal du siècle page needed significant updating; it should no longer fall into the scope of only Psychology (if it should fall into that scope at all!). --ponyboy (talk) 19:03, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Does this sentence make sense to anyone else?

It says "Those afflicted with temporary boredom may regard the affliction as a waste of time, but usually characterize boredom as far worse." Is it just me or does that sentence say that boredom is bad but boredom is worse?

This makes no sense to me so I deleted it. I think a lot of the stuff was nonsense or was actually not true once I deciphered it. Cazort 00:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Longview?

The song Longview by Green Day isn't about boredom, it's about masturbation.

It's about masturbation and drug use(I think) because of boredom. ;) Tigger89 03:27, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure boredom is mentioned in the song as the cause of all this JordanZed 14:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

its about boredom...and what you do when your bored.. =]

Billy clearly stated that its about "boredom, masturbation, and smoking dope" acording to the Wiki page of the song

Causes

boredom stinks I kind of like this article, but I feel that it rambles. Hence, I created the "causes" section. I think a lot of other stuff could be put into this section...made into a more coherent discussion instead of just a rambling narrative? But I don't want to be quick to butcher up everyone else's contributions...

I feel like this article is already shifting...it seems to be started as a goofy, fun article. But it's not really--boredom is a serious issue, and people have actually studied it! It's a symptom of some of the deep underlying problems in American society! Let's develop this! [[]into it...just...it was so bad!!!!! Cazort 00:17, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Boredom has recently led to the death of a young female in the University of Flinders. She had no medical conditions, besides wrinkly left fingertips. This could only mean that the death of rachele could have been either due to boredom or her fingertips looking weird. Not even the peeling of her fingertips were interesting enough to keep her alive. Witnesses say she was very sad to have spent her last moments of her life at a table with a bunch of very boring people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.96.85.219 (talk) 03:11, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Wow..

This page is vandalized like.. 2 times a day.. amazing.. My question is: every other page on wikia gets protection for repeated vandalism..why isnt this article protected? because people are too bored to protect it? probably. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Big texas lump (talk • contribs) 02:42, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Because you would think we'd find the CURE here. *Reads wikipedia boredom* Zzzzzzzz... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.192.94.145 (talk) 02:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

So many puns,,,anyway, I think its been vandalized so many times because a person would search "boredom" and find this article, therefore its an easy target.--97.116.74.119 (talk) 03:05, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

"Boredom" Cures Boredom!

So, this is the most interesting article. Really! I was one of those people who searched "bored" out of sheer boredom. Both the article, and the talk page cured me of my affliction. Thanks to the editors! Now, onto that term paper... Yea, and the picture needs to be moved down a bit; it's covering some of the text. --DarshaAssant that link falls within the bounds of the external links policy. Cheers. --MZMcBride 19:22, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Kierkegaard on boredom

things, even incoherently, and yet still that does not make me bored. Although "ennui" is related to the word "annoy" they don't mean the same thing. Boredom is more closely related to waiting. As it stands, in any case, the article is incoherent because it has internal disagreement. I am sorry, I don't mean to be rude and attacking, but the other material was there before the inconsistent material was introduced. Cdg1072 22:53, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree that boredom is not the same as ennui, even though some misguided soul redirected ennui to boredem. By the way, there is a separate article on Mind-wandering. --Mattisse 14:52, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Remove advertising "Psychosis Through Boredom" section

This is just advertising for someones indie film and should be removed. 80.0.127.94 18:31, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Scientific American Mind Reference

May consider adding as a reference. http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=bored--find-something-to-live-for —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.151.114.182 (talk) 03:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Jazz music?

Saying 'jazz music has a tendency to induce boredom' seems like nothing more than a poorly veiled attack on the genre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lpoolboy (talk • contribs) 00:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree completely. In fact, jazz music (though i'm not a devoted fan) is something I tend to listen to when bored...SOMEBODY just doesn't like that type of music, but is stating as fact that it's boring?--97.116.74.119 (talk) 03:02, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Boreout

The article Boreout has been marked as orphaned. Could this article provide a link to it to solve that problem? Luiscubal (talk) 18:20, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Nice find! Put in in if you like. Totnesmartin (talk) 19:39, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

OK. Done.Luiscubal (talk) 18:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Note regarding Marvin the Paranoid Android

Someone with privs might want to add the quick note -- Marvin was bored *and depressed*. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.101.60.186 (talk) 21:14, 5 May 2009 (UTC) Also a secondary note he is a manically depressed robot, not paranoid, though i think in earlier versions of hitchhikers he was, though Douglas Adams had a bent for changing things everytime he redid the books, from any of their incarnations.

"Portrait of Dorian G"

It may be relevant to add which character states that ennui is a sin that cannot be forgiven, as this can greatly change the meaning of the sentence. I'm familiar with the plot of "Portrait" in general but not with this quote, and I would interpret it differently depending on whether it's stated by Dorian's devilish mentor or by the virtuous painter, as this would say a lot about what Oscar Wilde's intentions and opinions on ennui himself.68.197.217.41 (talk) 20:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Note about Religion

God is stated as the "Ultimate Answer" to boredom I'm sorry but thats a personal opinion and completely baseless why is it here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jellinator (talk • contribs) 08:41, 12 May 2009 (UTC) WTF —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davis444 (talk • contribs) 16:44, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

why is this protected?

anyone? 93.86.201.173 (talk) 19:02, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

As Big texas lump commented: "This page is vandalized like.. 2 times a day.. amazing.." Phsyco ant (talk) 14:01, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

hmm, maybe by someone bored? 93.86.201.173 (talk) 14:40, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Inappropriate reference to Yellow Pages

The reference to Boring in the Yellow Pages does not belong here because that's a totally different sense of the word. I propose that the reference be deleted. If there are no objections within the next week I shall delete it. DQweny (talk) 07:42, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

I reviewed the Chicago Sun Times article added as a reference here and it supports the humorous/ambiguous use of the word "boring," so I now think it should be left in. DQweny (talk) 00:03, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree, and am therefore reverting its recent deletion. – Fayenatic London 18:40, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Should all wikipedia entries that have homonyms include humorous/ambiguous uses of the word? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.233.80.119 (talk) 14:34, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

No, only those that have independent sources confirming notability – as this one has. – Fayenatic London 22:32, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

highly religious/biast oppinion

"Boredom also plays a role in existentialist thought. In contexts where one is confined, spatially or otherwise, boredom may be met with various religious activities, not because religion would want to associate itself with tedium, but rather, partly because boredom may be taken as the essential human condition, to which God, wisdom, or morality are the ultimate answers. "

Some christian has put this in the document, as with the rules of wiki, it must be neutral. Boredom has no link to religion, just a lack of stimuli.92.81.167.46 (talk) 15:01, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Religion does relate to boredom, specifically boredom during sermons. 86.184.131.125 (talk) 21:13, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

I was bored so I looked up Boredom on Wikipedia

Reading this article gave me something to do and now I'm not bored anymore. I find the irony quite amusing.

Cheers, Vechs (talk) 03:15, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
haha - I did the very same thing Thetiesthatbind (talk) 13:13, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
hard relate --Lallint (talk) 14:14, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Claim that Dickens invented the word

http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/ar-dic1.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.169.250.185 (talk) 23:48, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Not according to that article: Dickens used it in 1853 but it had been used in 1841. – Fayenatic London 22:36, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Women's Sports redirects to this page

Typing in women's sports in the search redirects to this page guys. Not funny at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Strangeseraph (talk • contribs) 12:38, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Looks like a piece of vandalism from a few hours ago. Thanks for reporting it; I've now restored the original women's sports article. --McGeddon (talk) 12:41, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Persons mentioned in Psychology section

C. D. Fisher and M. R. Leary are quoted in the Psychology yet the reader has no idea who these people are. Xxavyer (talk) 18:28, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Monty Python

"The 1969 Vocational Guidance Counsellor sketch on Monty Python's Flying Circus established a lasting stereotype of accountants as boring."

I really doubt it. I think the skit exploited an already long-lasting stereotype of accountants as boring. GeneCallahan (talk) 20:02, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Conflicting history in the article

Up top: "The first recorded use of the word boredom is in the novel Bleak House by Charles Dickens, written in 1852." Under Philosophy: "Blaise Pascal in the Pensées discusses the human condition in saying "we seek rest in a struggle against some obstacles. And when we have overcome these, rest proves unbearable because of the boredom it produces." That would beat Dickens to the punch by about 200 years. --Rhododendrites (talk) 12:36, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps it's a modern translation of whatever term Pascal used in the original French? Using an earlier translation of the same work would be less confusing, if this is the case. --McGeddon (talk) 12:42, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Types of Boredom

A syndicated radio program made reference to a German scientific study which found a new type of boredom. The radio program mentioned 4 types which were currently known.Is this study worth citing? I have not found it yet. Also, is the concept of the 4 known types of boredom a popular or well established idea? If it is I would have liked to see this when I found the entry for "Boredom."108.56.5.177 (talk) 17:32, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Reasons for boredom

This article should have a section 'Reasons for boredom' and that section should have many subjections listing many different reasons that lots of people would be able to get bored by. It should state that boredom almost always comes from life being too repetitive and list one subsection for each way it could be too repetitive, such as shortscale boredom like being locked in your room and longscale boredom like your work job acting pretty much the same way every day. It should also list another 2 ways it could feel too repetitive, such as what somebody's learning in school being too easy because you repeat seeing somebody else consistently learning and forgetting what they're supposed to learn and seeming repetitive from being too hard because if you're not smart enough to notice a pattern in a changing system, the system seems random and although it's not repetitive, the laws that describe the probability a future outcome will happen a certain way seem repetitive. There should also be a 5th subsection explaning the wierd phenomenom that it sometimes seems like it's possible for somebody for to be bored by being forced to do one thing that's not very repetitive instead of another thing that's extremely repetitive and give an explanation that what's really happening is that they can tolerate one type of repetitiveness more than another type of repetitiveness and that they would make the choice to make their life extremely repetitive in one aspect that they can tolerate in order to avoid a much smaller amount of repetitiveness in another aspect that they can't tolerate. One example of this is a kid who doesn't want to do homework because it's boring and playing with toys is more repetitive but in a different way that they can tolerate but if they had to choose between doing homework for 4 hours or their arms, legs and neck being chained up for 4 hours unable to move with nobody else in the room they're in and what they see not chaning at all for the entire 4 hours, they would choose to do the homework because not a single aspect of being chained up like that is less repetitive than that of doing homework. There should also be one more section discussing whether some people if they lived for ever, after a certian point in time they would be bored regardless of what was going on in their life because for anyone who lives forever, there will come a time when from then on, all 5 minute patches of their life are a duplicate of a 5 minute patch that has already occured earlier in their life. It should also discuss possibe coping stratigies for being bored of life entirely like thinking now that all 5 minute patches of my life are repititions, I will instead pay attention to how the last 10 minutes of my life went which is not a repitition. It should state the sourced information like people's quotes and discussions about the possibility to get bored by life entirely, not the unsorced information of whether it's actually possible to get bored of life entirely. If somebody who originally wanted to live forever changes there mind and then wants to die from being bored of life, the most sensible purpose of doing so is not to get the boredom over faster because it's useless to do it for that reason if doing so doesn't effect how bored they are during the last part of their life which is the most important to be good. The only good reason to change their mind about living for ever would be to avoid themself becoming even more bored than they already are. An additional possible reason to be bored by life entirely could be because once someone's really old, they're so experienced that they ran out of new information to learn that's so useful that it changes how they run their life entirely. Maybe the article could explain that maybe what's really happening is that the really old person thinks that they're bored of life entirely when it's really the impossibility to give them enviornmental factors that always give them more and more complex new experiences for them to learn as they get older but since they haven't been given those environmental factors, they don't realize that such environmental factors would have removed their boredom. I'm using the phrase 'bored of life entirely' to mean that no enviornmental factors with the person living for ever would stop there from coming a time when they're bored all the time from then on with no exception to the environmental factors. Blackbombchu (talk) 04:59, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

The subsection about being bored of life entirely I guess is way less necessary than the other 5 I suggested. Blackbombchu (talk) 05:13, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Kierkegaard reference

This sentence would be grammatical and better if the "since" was deleted:

In Kierkegaard's remark in Either/Or, that "patience cannot be depicted" visually, since there is a sense that any immediate moment of life may be fundamentally tedious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.175.151.48 (talk) 01:39, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2014

Please add something to the following wikipedia post on the topic of boredom so it reads:

"that boredom proneness is clearly associated with failures of attention, including ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder."  Sources include the just released book The Elephant in the ADHD Room: Beating Boredom As the Secret to Managing ADHD'Italic text by Letitia Sweitzer (Jessica Kingsley Publishers, London and Philadelphia, 2014) and this article Dodson, W.W. (2002). "The Basics and the Controversies."  www.davidsongifted.org/db/Articles_id_10262.aspx

The original post: Recent research has found that boredom proneness is clearly and consistently associated with failures of attention.[8] Boredom and its proneness are both theoretically and empirically linked to depression and similar symptoms.[9][10][11] Nonetheless, boredom proneness has been found to be as strongly correlated with attentional lapses as with depression.[9]Boredom expert (talk) 16:23, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Boredom expert (talk) 16:23, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. —Mr. Granger (talk · contribs) 23:47, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

The interdisciplinary academic field "Boredom Studies" should have a section here

This article discusses scholarly treatments of boredom in the disciplines of psychology and philosophy, but in the past decade or so there has been the growth of what the sociologist Michael Gardiner has called "boredom studies" in its own right - an "emerging" interdisciplinary field Gardiner and colleague Julian Jason Haladyn have an edited collection coming out in 2016 that aims to consolidate this field. Other notable contributions include Haladyn's own forthcoming book Boredom and Art, Peter Toohey's Boredom: A Lively History, an edited collection called Essays on Boredom and Modernity by Barbara Dalle Pezze and Carlo Salzani, and Elizabeth Goodstein's landmark Experience Without Qualities: Boredom and Modernity. These are all from within the past ten years, but there are others who paved the way a little before these, but long after Kierkegaard and Baudelaire, and even Benjamin and Heidegger, notably, Reinhard Kuhn with The Demon of Noontide: Ennui in Western Literature, Patricia Meyer Spacks with Boredom: The Literary History of a State of Mind, and Michael Raposa with Boredom and the Religious Imagination.

Would a section to this effect be appropriate? Many of these materials treat boredom in art and literature that isn't currently discussed in the article and is important to mention, but probably should be elaborated within other sections. MonstreDélicat (talk) 17:22, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

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Claim of first use in Dickens is incorrect

According to this: [1]. Equinox ◑ 20:06, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

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(Boredom means you don't have anything to do.)

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Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2017

The following sentence requires a source: "The automobile requires fast reflexes, making its operator busy and hence, perhaps for other reasons as well, making the ride more tedious despite being over sooner." A find-in-text search of the keywords "automobile", "auto", "car", "driving" in the two above cited works by Heidegger (lecture and essay; available on Google Scholar / Google Books) didn't reveal the statement. Perhaps it is in a third, not-cited work by Heidegger?

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This article is about the emotional and psychological state of mind. For other uses, see boredom (disambiguation).

"Bored" redirects here. For other uses, see Bored (disambiguation).

This adds links to boredom (disambiguation) and bored (disambiguation); and handles the incoming redirect bored

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Partly done: I tried to do a more complete job cleaning up the hatnotes. Your proposal would have resulted in 5 hatnotes when the hatnote policy discourages using more than one. I ended up with three, which I suppose is better than five. Thanks. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 14:35, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

The solution provided is still missing Bored (disambiguation) to handle the incoming redirect bored. This can be solved with a change to the

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changed to

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"Bored", "Boring", and "Ennui" redirect here. For other uses, see Bored (disambiguation), Boring (disambiguation), and Ennui (disambiguation).

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Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2017

In the first sentence of Etymology and Terminology, after "The first recorded use of the word boredom is in the novel Bleak House by Charles Dickens, written in 1852," replace ref to Oxford Old English Dictionary with citation-needed tag. (A) There is no Oxford Old English Dictionary. (B) The first example in the original Oxford English Dictionary (sorry, no modern edition to hand) is from Bleak House, but that may only indicate the limits of the sources available to the compiler then and doesn't mean that other dictionaries or reference works mention earlier uses. Indeed, a quick bit of online OR throws up one 1835 occurrence which seems almost too casual to be a deliberate first coining.[2] 92.19.24.9 (talk) 16:10, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

There are five more examples from before Bleak House here[3]. It might be better to change

"The first recorded use of the word boredom is in the novel Bleak House by Charles Dickens, written in 1852,[4] in which it appears six times, although the expression to be a bore had been used in print in the sense of "to be tiresome or dull" since 1768.[5]"

to

"The expression to be a bore had been used in print in the sense of "to be tiresome or dull" since 1768 at the latest.[5]" 92.19.24.9 (talk) 16:21, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Done The word seems to have been used before Bleak House. Gulumeemee (talk) 06:48, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

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